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[–] morto@piefed.social 72 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

So, we will have to enable developer mode for that? How long before banking and government apps refuse to run if you have "sideloaded" apps installed? This will be the same as not allowing the majority of people to sideload. No win in here, just an advanced strategy from google to make us conform

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I totally agree.

I am so tired of this "slow boil", bs.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

This is already the case if the developer mode toggle is enabled for some. I have to turn it off any time I'm traveling for work because the app we have to use to file expense reports refuses to run with developer mode enabled.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago

You should NEVER be using work apps on a personal device. EVER.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

At that point you should tell your work to get a work only device for you... I always refuse to use my phone for work shit. I used to explain to them why, now I just lie and say my device is too old to have anything installed on it.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

lmao, no arguments here. My boss's phone got bit by the construction site so I think we might finally be getting some movement on that front, at least for anyone who finds themselves in the field doing shit.

For what it's worth, I don't generally mind using my phone for work shit because it's convenient to do so. MDM on android works in a container, so I don't even care about that if they want to implement it.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah I get the convenience of it.

My dad was complaining out loud to his boss, not requesting anything, just complaining about having to bring two phones with him when he was out and about. So his boss got him a dual-sim work phone lol. The convenience can work out that way as well :)

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, but I travel for work. I dont want to carry two phones, as the one colpany offers is a shitty samsung a-series and I use graphene on my Pixel

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Or if you're rooted, or run something other than your OEM image. I use grapheneos and I'm lucky that my bank doesn't enforce that like some do. I still can't use cards to tap with Google wallet because it's not certified by Google.

[–] morto@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago

But what if they starting requiring that you remove the sideloaded apps? We're getting trapped

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The developer mode is enabled to install an apk you've downloaded. Once its installed the mode is not needed.

You can't use banking services now in the developer mode.

As I've read it, installing non-certified apks can only be done offline.

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 4 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, if that process wouldn't need developer mode (or stayed active after disabling it again) that wouldn't be that bad (still annoying). But having to choose between the ability to install apps or use those apps that only work without developer mode certainly isn't a win.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Riddle me this, why do people use banking apps on mobile devices in the first place? Why put all your financial data in an eggshell just waiting to get dropped or stolen?

Bank cards have had the whole tap to pay thing for quite a while now. I drop my phone, busted. I drop my bank card, it's fine, I just pick it right back up, and it stays in my wallet unless in use, not in my hand where it's infinitely more likely to get lost or stolen.

You want a banking app, do so from your home computer, not a fragile mobile device literally designed to fail if it so much as falls out of your hands.

Anyways, riddle me that...

[–] morto@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't know how online banking access is around the world, but here in brazil, they made it completely impractical to use from computers by applying artificial restrictions. Some payment institutions doesn't even support access from computers anymore. Meanwhile, accessing from the phones has been made easier and less restrictive, so basically everyone has to do banking from the phone. It has even become a popular thing to have a separate "banking phone" to use at home, but many people can't affort that.

[–] Thrawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I have a concrete and very stupid example.

We got a large gift card as an incentive to renew our lease at our current apartment vs moving. The format they sent it in had no physical card and would only work on either online stores or through a service like Google Wallet AKA a banking app on a mobile device as you mentioned.

So to get groceries while waiting on a tax refund (thanks crappy American economy and taxation methods) we had no choice but to connect and use it that way.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, I have a choice alright, I chose to withdraw all my money and cancel my bank account like 11 years ago, because my bank refused to accept my tax return as a direct deposit. TurboTax had to reprocess it and send my return as a paper check after the bank refused a fucking direct deposit!

Besides, when the electricity goes out for two weeks after a hurricane or other natural or manmade disaster, how you gonna get groceries or gasoline with electronic money anyways? Give me a paper check to exchange for paper money, paper money still spends even when the electricity goes out.

If it's a service that only deals with electronic transfers, well I ain't signing up, and you can just keep that gift card if it requires an app to even use.

Every single day I assume that tomorrow there might not be electricity, it's amazing to me that people have come to rely on it so much and assume it'll always be there.

Ask anyone in Cuba how that's going right now...

[–] Thrawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Oh I have lived outside the USA at one point and I'm well aware electricity isn't magic. There were other places too but Guyana most definitely doesn't have a stable power grid.

I'm not going to starve my kids over that kind of stance on cash only either though.

I can't understand why banks are as stupid as they often are. Why would you refuse money from the federal government. What do you think we successfully stole money from the IRS through a direct deposit?