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[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think they're conscious, and you can't just say they're conscious because we can't prove they aren't. This is a great platform for studying neural pathway degredation though and I hope it bears fruit.

As some sort of torment nexus type tool, this is pointless, incredibly expensive, and impossible to train. It's hard enough to train regular humans to do simple tasks and they have the benefit of 15+ years of social education and constant interfacing with the real world.

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well it looks like we're at an impasse. And in that position I'd rather err on the side of caution. You talk about this like some kind of piece of technology, and ignore the fact that this is thousands of human brain cells working together to take inputs and provide outputs. You don't think they're conscious, I agree, but there's a wide gap between having a single thought or awareness and being conscious of its own existence. But without the knowledge of what a thought is, I really don't know how to be so sure of where we're at on this journey.

And about training, what are you talking about? It's hard to train people? Does this mean that people who can't learn a new skill are not as good as other people? I hope you're not, but I don't think it's a good example.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 1 points 18 hours ago

And about training, what are you talking about? It's hard to train people? Does this mean that people who can't learn a new skill are not as good as other people? I hope you're not, but I don't think it's a good example.

I never said that, I said that even in the absolute best case where it is a literal human brain in a jar, it's still a human brain. Humans already exist, and are already exploited for much less money than it would cost to maintain and train a jar brain.

I'm just saying there's no economic incentive for it. They want "AGI" because they read stories about "ASI" which is much more enticing to them than something that learns just as fast or slower than a normal human.