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  • “Cloud First”: To move federal agencies to the cloud, the government created a program known as FedRAMP, whose job was to ensure the security of new technology.
  • Security Breakdown: ProPublica found that FedRAMP authorized a Microsoft product called GCC High to handle sensitive government data, despite years of concerns about its security.
  • Potential Conflict of Interest: The government relies, in part, on third-party firms to vet cloud technology, but those firms are hired and paid by the company being assessed.
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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They do that because there are some things that you can’t put in the cloud, like HIPAA protected data. It’s absolutely a rip off, but that was their solution.

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You absolutely can store HIPAA data in the cloud.

Latency is one of the big selling points for Outposts. They have customers wanting to control industrial equipment from their cloud resources, but the nearest AWS region is too far away to provide the low latency connectivity they need. With Outposts, they get the cloud, but with on-prem network latency.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

There is no certification process in place for using a cloud to store HIPAA data. It even says that on the page that you linked. Legally, any organization that used this service would be opening themselves to further liability under HIPAA.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

can you site the part of HIPAA that says that?

There's no certification for HIPAA defined in law.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No I can’t cite something that doesn’t exist. I literally just said there isn’t one… so I am not sure what your point is.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Legally, any organization that used this service would be opening themselves to further liability under HIPAA.

What legal violation? Because the law says nothing about that.

what the law does allow, is data storage with a BAA.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

What?!? The entire purpose of HIPAA is to put liability on misuse of data. At this point, I have no fucking clue what your point is.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but you talked about how cloud storage vs on prem is a violation.

Put up or shut up.

Also see my edit about a BAA

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The answer to your question is in the article you posted… did you even read it?

Have a great day, I’m done talking in circles.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not op, and I've Read the actual law.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Believe it or not I pay attention to usernames. I was talking about the link you just posted that mentions the liability assumed by the signers of the BAA.

Maybe read it again? My job requires me to be HIPAA and FERPA certified, I am confident in my interpretation of the situation.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I'm also required to be compliant.

But how can companies like google have products like

https://cloud.google.com/security/compliance/hipaa

if cloud storage is a violation?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's what he's saying, they're in violation. Your comment begs the question "is everything big companies do legal and compliant?"

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Violation of what specifically?

Because HIPAA does not say you cant store data with third parties. That would be every cloud EMR out there.

That's my point though. Is HIPAA says nothing technical about who can store data, just who's responsible for it getting out.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Seriously, stop being a troll. I’m done with this conversation. Not one time have I used the word violation.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 hours ago

Fun fact, the law actually does not lay out a single technical "must do".

But rather establish liabilities and defines miss use. Which is NOT the same as proper use.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Tell that to literally every hospital, medical provider, and insurer in the United States.

They’re all using AWS, and OneDrive.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 3 points 5 hours ago

That's news to me. Every time to vendor tries to get me to switch to their cloud product I tell them to get lost. I'm not willingly handing over patient data to these clowns, I've seen how bad they are at security.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I am a software developer who does custom EMR software specifically because the places I work for can’t use the cloud. But okay I will try…