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Fork time? Maybe all the anti-systemd zealots were right all along...

Edit: To address whether it is likely that this change will affect users: Gnome is planning a stronger dependence on userdb, the part of systemd where this change is being implemented. https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/

Final Edit: The PR has been merged into main.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I was ambivalent about systemd up until now. If this gets merged I'm moving to a non-systemd distro. I do not live in California or even the USA. I do not want age verification garbage in my OS.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

Iv not given a shit one way or another as well. But as a Californian I refuse to have this shit on my PC damn be what the law says.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Consider PCLinuxOS: they're an RPM-based mandriva (mandrake/conectiva) derivative with really great and wide compatibility in stacks without the 'modules' shitfest RH started after no one remembered what 'alternatives' was for.

They don't use systemd, but their installation is a bit shite as it's a "live CD" installer -- they pruned out the proper templatey install that mandriva has. But so far that's the biggest issue. If they can get off networkManager we'll be even better off, though.

[–] Ganymede@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

There's also kaOS

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

There's also Linux MX, Debian based, on their latest release they added systemd as an option, but you can choose sysv at first boot if you want, and that's what will be installed and used.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good news: this is not age verification. This is an optional DoB field on a user profile.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's being added as a response to the age verification laws with the intended purpose to provide the age signal.

It's age verification/attestation.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No. It's a date of birth. You're right that age verification comes next, but this is not it. Had this field been present before, none of this would matter.

Contact your representative, not your local FOSS maintainer.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Contact your representative

Right, so that they can ask if I'm stoned or stupid for asking them to affect laws in another country?

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Contact your representative, not your local FOSS maintainer.

They're not a US citizen.

They also didn't say they would contact the maintainers. They said they'd just change distro to a non-systemd one.

And you're nothing but silly trying to act like this isn't about age "verification". We know it is, because it comes in response to the new california law

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you're (or they) not a US citizen (or Brazilian) why would you care if they comply with local laws?

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They stated that reason very clearly in their original comment. I suggest you read it if you want to know why.