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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There is no material difference between when a democrat votes to bomb Iran to liberate them vs when a republican votes to bomb ~~Libya-~~Ira~~q~~n because they want to murder more Muslims.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Surely you're capable of admitting that the Republicans are putting far more immigrants in concentration camps than the Democrats, and therefore they're more murderous.

If you can't admit who's causing more harm, then I don't see the point of having any kind of discussion with you.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The old good cop bad cop routine really works on you eh. Can't see past it and you're incapable of having a proper conversation about the issue. You get offended, you think it's so obvious... I would kindly suggest that you look at the USA's & allies' foreign policy trajectory historically over the years. If you manage to look at the facts you will see that no matter which party is in power, the goals remain the same.

Watch how AOC and the like will not get elected and instead you will get a Newsom character running instead. Happened with Bernie and Hillary before and it will happen again.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AOC is just the new Bernie the Sheepdog, controlled oppositon

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Who would you like to see run for the dems?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Dems as a party need to be abandoned. Liberals scream FPTP then refuse to support better candidates to get them FPTP.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nobody, that is a regime party and can't be fixed. It needs to go.
You need genuine 3rd parties, not these astroturfed faces pretending to be leftist keeping this theater going since forever.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough, but is there anyone after Nader?

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There have been socialist candidates.
It's up to you if you want to vote for them or support another one, anyone can theoretically run.
You will have to get past the blue MAGA who during your last election fought harder to get them thrown of the ballots than fighting red MAGA.
Very telling.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The greater harm is those posing as allies to the marginalized, those that built those camps, those that lay the foundations for Republican crimes against the working class.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Democrats voted to fund Trump's ICE. There is no material difference.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe look up the numbers for the Drone King and Genocide Joe if you want to go there.
If you can’t admit Blue MAGA is just as bad you deserve Red MAGA, and I'm glad you got it.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

BlueMAGA is 10 times worse than MAGA. MAGA tells you to your face they hate you. BlueMAGA will smile at you, embrace you, and hug as if they're an ally while they're driving a knife in your back. And before they do that, they will tokenize you if you were marginalized.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

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Well aren't you just a ball of positivity? 166 comments federating over to our instance, and only 16 net upvotes across them. And if you downvote nearly half as often as you upvote, then it really seems like you're not getting much value out of this site. You might have a nicer time if you log off and go make some friends. You know, go bowling or play some video games. I think you'll have more fun than arguing with people on the internet, which, uh, seems to be most of what you do here.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's called the ad hominem tool.
The petty last resort for those without arguments or facts.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just curious how some users who have dedicated haters would look.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

when the haters are bootlickers of genociders and schoolgirl mass murderers their enemy usually is this guy

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LOL another one scavenging through comments and attack the messenger when no arguments.
So there's plenty of disgusting USSA imperialist bootlickers on here.
It's not a popularity contest.
I don't like his anti-regime attitude so I'm pretentiously going to suggest he leaves. Would be much easier for you wouldn't it?
I'm going nowhere buddy.
You can stuff your ridiculous meaningless upvote count and whatever irrelevant BS up your blue magat ass.
If you want gleichschaltung go back to your regime controlled Reddit where you can be in your little echo chamber.
I like it perfectly fine here calling out regime bootlickers and putting them in their place, even if they disgust me sometimes.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ad hominem argumentum is all they got. They expect you to fall in line and support all their neoliberal bullshit in their echo chambers. They don't want discussion they want compliance

[–] TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Which Democratic candidate has run on a platform of bombing Iran to liberate them?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

None of them ever campaign on these issues, they just do it. There's never been a war that Democrats weren't foaming at the mouth to get into

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you not see how the way the democrats who voted against the War Powers Resolution justified their votes? There is bipartisan consensus on imperialism abroad and concentration camps at home.

[–] TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, I thought you were referring to the electorate voting on candidates that were explicitly pro war with Iran.

As for how the two parties voted in the House of Representatives, I would argue that there is a clear material difference between one party voting 210-4 to reign in Trump's war, and the other voting 215-2 to let Trump keep on bombing.

The same with how the two parties voted in the Senate.