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Literally after "Yes, I do understand what the word "insist" means "
Clearly you don't understand it, which makes you complaining about the language use of others even more ironic.
Just because I'm doing something doesn't mean I "insist" on it.
I really hope English isn't your first language, because your use of language is so horribly wrong that I hope you have a better one to spare.
Not every turn of phrase is metaphor. If I said "you're as busy as a bee", that wouldn't be taken literally, as it's clearly metaphor. Saying someone is literally insisting on something means that you think they are LITERALLY INSISTING.
Yes, "literally" can be used as emphasis, but especially in a thread where you're complaining that doctors use the wrong prescriptive language, saying that your language is all metaphor is ridiculous.
I haven't even attempted to insult you. No, you've just taken offense at me calling you out on being wrong. And because you take subjective offense at something, you can't distinguish it from someone who actually is very much attempting to insult someone, let alone "insisting" on it.
"I don't understand etymology and how words are coined in medicine"
Yes we can all very clearly see that.
https://journals.sagepub.com/overview-metric/NDY
"hurr durr neurodiversity isn't a REAL word"
There's literally a medical journal with the title "Neurodiversity". To argue its "not a real medical term" is utterly fucking ridiculous.
Do you perhaps mean "neurodivergence isn't an official diagnosis"? Because "being a real word" and "being an official diagnosis" are two quite different things.. Even more different than dough and bread.
Do you have any idea how many new medical terms there have been in nigh 40 years? "It wasn't some professional doctor" (as opposed to a hobbyist doctor?) who diagnoses autism who created the term."
I hope English isn't your first language, but the word youre looking for is "coined", not "created". Seem to be having a little challenges with language. Sure you're not autistic?
Oh how weird you didn't write "a metal machine" isn't it? Or just "honey where are the keys to the metal, I'm going shopping." or "oh give me some of that dough I'll put it in the toaster".
You just can't accept you have problems with categories and you made a language booboo by claiming neurodevelopmental disorders are a different category than neurology.
Yeah and they're all a part of neurology.
Saying "broken bones and orthopedics are completely different categories" would be equally stupid as your statement.
Or saying "well I love spaghetti but it's a totally different category from pasta and I hate if people call my spaghetti pasta".
No, it isn't. You're saying "rectangles and squares are wholly different CATEGORIES." I know you're so neurodisabled that clearly language doesn't come easy to you, but surely even you understand that a category isn't one specific thing. It's a category of things.
Just like the category of rectangles includes squares, the category of neurology encompasses all neurodevelopmental disorders.
What you're doing is saying "squares don't belong in the category of rectangles", which is just fucking wrong.
You also used the wrong form of the word "you're." I have a neurological condition that isn't neurodevelopmental, therefore mentioning both neurodevelopmental and neurological conditions in the same sentence makes perfect sense. I thought you would've understood the hint by now, but apparently not.
Again, using the word "insist" the way I did was correct. English isn't your first language, yet you refuse to understand when a native English speaker is informing you of a clear language barrier. Here's an example provided by a dictionary website,
"Why did he insist on showing up when she was alone?"
Another one would be,
"Do you want to go to the store?"
"If you insist."
Or why did you insist on directly insulting me when I hadn't done so to you? The way I used this word is very similar to these examples.
"I know you're so neurodisabled that language doesn't come easily to you." Whoopsie daises, that's extremely ableist of you. You're going for extremely low blows when I'm objectively just criticising the things you've written. First, you call me stupid, and now you're basically politely calling me rtrded. Nice to know how much you actually support disabled people.
Sure, it's a term used in medical journals, but that doesn't make it a diagnostic term. When I say medical, I mean in a diagnostic sense. The point of going to a hospital for most cases is for receiving medical care, which mostly consists of receiving medical diagnoses beforehand. Absolutely zero diagnoses require the usage of the word "neurodivergent" in their symptoms. It's an entirely optional word and I've never heard someone use that word when giving me any of my diagnoses.
Yeah, yeah, coined vs created. You literally coin words by creating a new term based on old prefixes, roots, and suffixes. To say that a word is created is still accurate because you're still creating a term that never previously existed by mashing prefixes, roots, and suffixes together.
This brings me to another point; people sometimes use the word "neurodivergent" as a dogwhistle. It has been sometimes used to indicate that someone is "one of the good ones" and not like those "disabled guys." I've seen people use it in a similar manner to how people use the word "Asperger's."
If you qualify for a diagnosis that is categorised as a disability, you are disabled. Autism and ADHD, are by definition, disabling. People forget that it's possible to be mildly disabled.
You're confusing disorder and disability.
Not to mention using grammar wrong and then getting upset when someone points out how wrong you are.
I did not in any way insist on insulting you. You project that because youre insecure and I pointed out that you're using words wrong and making mistakes which amount to the same thing as "spaghetti and pasta are different categories."
Just like when you said "neurological and neurodevelopmental are different categories" you're making rhe same mistake again. "Disorder" is not synonymous with "DISABILITY".
That is ableist as fuck not to mention disgustingly wrong
So when you make a mistake people arr still supposed to mind read around it?
You made a mistake. You are literally unable to Admit to it.
Honestly that's one confusing as fuck explanation that's pure avoidance. Just try uttering "I was wrong" it's really not that hard.
But no, crying to mods because people agreed with me and my comments about how wrong you are.
A typing mistake when using autoinput on a mobile doesn't really speak to one's language proficiency (especially when I noticed the error and fixed it half an hour before you childishly even pointed it out).
That's not what we're debating. Is your literacy that low or is this plain old avoidance?
What you said is "neurodevelopmental disorders and neurology are wholly different categories" or words to that effect. They're not.
Not "mentioning both in the same sentence".
No, it really, really wasn't. And just because this is my third language doesn't make it better for you. It makes it worse, because youre getting schooled.
First one implies almost a stalking sort of action, but on a socially acceptable level. The second one could be replied to with "well I sort of fancy a drink, but it's not a must" (as in politely negating the "insist").
Me casually pointing out you're using language wrong and you taking extra special offense at wanting to be called extra special, because you think "neurodivergent" is categorically different from "neurodevelopmental" is not me insisting to insult you. It's just your ego being really weak and you perceiving a casual remark as insistence.
Unlike in that case, there's no proscriptively right answer, and the most correct answer will be defined by the author's intent. Who authored the bit you're insisting (see that's the correct way to use the word) has insistence? Oh, right, me.
Would you care to list any of the things you've perceived to be me insisting on an insult? No...? Quelle surprise.
Yeah you're being soooooo objective. Not at all just have your feelings hurt because someone saw right through you and pointed out a mistake you made.
You LITERALLY self-identified as "I would prefer being called neurodisabled", when clearly having somewhat functioning faculties (debatable but), and now you're strawmanning that I'm using ableist slurs when you literally literally chose to self-identify with the word I'm respectfully using (against my personal dislike of the term, because I've literally never seen it and read a lot of neurological literature due to my own disabilities).
Ah yes, so I should've been able to read your mind when you said that "it's not even a real word, it was invented in the 90's", that you actually meant "neurodivergence isn't a diagnosis". Because fuck everything, and you just saying shit that's wrong doesn't matter, because you can just say you actually didn't even mean it and didn't even make a mistake but that it obviously means the correct thing, which is actually very different?
Mmm. Right. I can see that neurodisability showing through again, imo. Mind explaining better this disability you have so I don't say anything offensive about your psychological predisposition to ever admit you're wrong and avoid all the stupid shit you've happened to say?
No, "neurodivergent" isn't a diagnosis. Neither is "neurodevelopmental," "neurological", "psychological", "acute" "first-aid", "resuscitation", "suture" diagnoses either, but still they're every much commonly used in medicine, because they're kinds useful when doing it and talking about it.
For you. But for anyone actually practicing neurology, no it is fucking not "optional". That's like saying that "acceleration" is an entirely optional word for physicists. That is ridiculous.
Yes? And I've never heard the word "suture" in any of my diagnosis. I still have a at least 50 scars of them on my body, left by actual medical professionals. Do you believe they could've been using the word even... even when I wasn't in the room...? :O
I genuinely mean no offense in this part, and I probably have to avoid mocking you for that, but is this the neurodisability of yours again?
You're saying "words are coined through the use prefixes, roots and suffixes. This wasn't coined, because it's created by using prefixes, roots, and suffixes" and you don't see how that's an utterly ridiculously contradictory thing to say? You genuinely don't see it? Uff, guess it's more serious than I thought.
I really don't give a flying fuck to your subjective experiences. In what way they use "aspergers"? Mockingly? Praisingly? The "he might be slightly socially awkward" (without an implication as to whether the person is bad or good.)
Perhaps you don't realise but those are subjective experiences of yours. You're just trying to avoid admitting to having made a language mistake. Especially after your insistent implication (repeated, stressed, angry, those are hallmarks of insistence, none of which my comments have :))) ) that I must be bad at English because it's not my first language. Must be kinda shameful to realise how badly you know languages.
No, they're not. By definition, they're not. Disabled has actual fucking well-defined legal definitions, (most of which are different in different countries) . But no they're not by definition disabilities. You can actually have mild to severe autism and by no definition is all autism and ADHD disabling. THAT is fucking ableism and offensive af. Especially on c/autism
It's beyond pathetic going to edit your comments instead of admitting to having made semantical mistakes. "People forget its possible being mildly disabled". Depends on the context and country, again. But YOU are conflating a disorder with a disability. Neurodevelopmental disorders don't mean you're disabled even slightly. They can be disabling, but there is no implied necessary disablement. That's ableist as fuck.