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Water usage is probably my biggest. Living in a high desert, my wife and MIL see no problem with filling one side of the sink with hot soapy water to wash a few dishes because “that’s just how I’ve always done it”, to watering the grass and plants for hours. All of this makes me mental.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Pro choice is about choice

Pro life isn't about life as they've never cared about any of that shit. That baby is born? Toss it in a dumpster as far as they care.

Pro life is about control and power, I'm willing to.doe on that hill a hundred times

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Case and point.

You don't actually expect me to believe that you think all Pro-life people believe that children don't deserve a good home. Sure there might be some people out there like that. But it's much more likely that the majority of people do actually care.

It is not even that their priorities are wrong or conflicting. I hope you can agree that being murdered is worse than those children having a bad childhood.

Please note that I am not taking either a pro-life or pro-choice position. My position is that until one side can actually understand the other the debate will never go anywhere.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If withholding lifesaving care is murder, everyone who hasn't donated a kidney is a murderer. Everyone who didn't donate blood this month is a murderer. Everyone who isn't an organ donor is a murderer.

No one getting an abortion is a murderer, they're just not agreeing to share all of their organs with another person for almost a year.

So yeah, I just don't understand their position. They don't call withholding medical care by sharing organs murder in any other context.

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I posted this to another commenter but feel it also applies here.

I think you have lost what my original argument was about. I am asserting that the abortion debate will never end due to each side arguing about disparate things.

From what I understand, there are 3 primary ways that a debate can end; each side comes to an agreement about what is correct/what should be done, each side agrees that they will not be able to agree on what is correct, or one side decides they are unable to change the opinion of the other side.

Much of your posts discusses how one side (Pro-life) is incorrect. This does not touch on my central argument. If you proposed a situation in which one of the three outcomes could occur then that would disprove my belief.

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