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Man every year that goes by people glaze that game a little harder.
Well, besides it just being really that fucking good, I think there are a couple of reasons.
First off, anyone who doesn't like it probably hasn't been playing it for 15 years. People who talk about something for that long either really love it or really hate it, and those opinions take up a greater part of the conversation as the less fanatical folks fall away. It's a natural by product of time.
Secondly, while many great games have come since then, nothing has done what New Vegas did as well as it did. So not only does it keep looking better every year just by comparison, but the conversation has also gotten stuck. Since there's no real follow-up for fans to move on to.
Compare this to another amazing game from around that time, like Dark Souls. People love and glaze that game to death. It's a timeless classic and cultural landmark in gaming. But fans have been able to move on to sequels, spiritual successors, and knockoffs, so the conversation has been able to move on with them.
You actually make a pretty good point. If the the next fallout games hadn't been bethesda slop, NV probably wouldn't still have the same reputation. I remember really liking the writing in FNV, but I would have a hard time saying the game holds up considering it was broken out the gate.
They never really fixed it, either. The actual gunplay is very bad; the in-game iron sights don't even line up with the endpoint of your bullets.
Which is also why NV players praise modders so much. Additionally, classic Fallout fans have a different standard for bugs, because Fallout 1 & 2 were also busted as hell.
When we say New Vegas is a good game, we mean the writing. That may come off as an inaccurate description to some, but Fallout up until 4 (or 3, discounting the environmental stories) always sacrificed gameplay for good writing. There's really only one viable combat build in Fallout 1 lol.
I really liked some of the canges they made in 4, namely to crafting. But the writing was so gd lazy 😭 That and the stupid generated rare weapons. Im a collector in those games and it took me a hot minute to realize most those were not very unique at all.
That was a big problem I had in 3 as well, most uniques were only unique in name.
But 3 had an awesome explorable world, so it was more about the locations for me.
Fantastic analysis. I never looked at the buzz around New Vegas that way, even though I myself have fallen into the same loop you describe.
I disagree on the point about Dark Souls. I don't think people have moved on. I still get new videos on it pretty frequently. This is because, like FONV, nothing has done something like it sense. Sure, the gameplay has been replicated and improved, but the world hasn't. DS1 is still, in my opinion and many others, the best designed world in the Souls genre, and possibly in gaming as a whole. There's a very good reason it hasn't been replicated though; it was a bitch to design. I hope we get another world like it though.
I actually agree with basically every point you made. I enjoy watching a good Dark Souls video essay every time a new one pops up. And it's easily one of the best designed worlds in gaming, I fully agree with that. The inter-connectivity and level design is a masterclass.
I didn't mean to imply that "no one has ever talked about Dark Souls again after another Souls-like came out." That would obviously be an insane take (like I said, glazed all the time, timeless classic, cultural landmark, etc.).
However, I still think it's an excellent example to highlight my point. The subsequent Souls and Souls-like games have added to and divided the conversation. So while yes, there are a lot of videos and discussions about how uniquely great Dark Souls is, the community also has lots of discussions about what later games did better, worse, different, what they hope for in the future, etc. And a lot of the community has even found a later game to be their favorite.
So while there are Dark Souls holdouts who tend to talk about it like New Vegas fans talk about New Vegas, they don't dominate the conversation the way they do for New Vegas. Or at least it doesn't feel that way to me.
Though fwiw, even if you think Dark Souls is a bad example, I hope my core point still came across. I'm sure that Dark Souls 1 diehards feel a lot like New Vegas diehards, having watched their beloved series stray so far away from what struck them as truly special. And my intent was never to diminish the validity of that.
This meme is literally the opposite of glazing New Vegas?