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I'm not ML by any means, but I don't really see the problem here? Schools are for learning useful life skills, etc. Surely learning the official language of your nation is a very useful life skill to have? Mandating that kids be taught a language does not mean forcing them to unlearn their native language.
I’m not sure how the Uyghurs and Mongols came under Chinese power, but Tibetian people were captured by force. They have autonomous states each, where they could decide to just collectively learn Mandarin if they thought it was something they wanted.
If the autonomy of these states are being infringed by this law, then that is a problem. In that case, I think the reduction of autonomy is far more concerning than the particular curriculum change.
It's giving me native boarding school vibes. First they separate you from your language and force you to use theirs
I mean that's clearly very bad, but the bad thing in particular in that scenario is separating you from your language, which afaik isn't happening here? At least not yet?
It’s not like they are separate problems, but both part of the same push where minority nations are being assimilated and stripped of indentity.
Bold move, criticizing someone you never heard's pronunciation of a language whose people you've never met.
If you wanted to change that, anybody can go to xinjiang or kazakhstan and talk to the people. Its really easy unlike Tibet, you can just go there.
You are making some wild jumps in logic.
Learning another language is not "destroying a culture", this is a dog whistle of hardcore conservatives who are afraid of diversity. What would be destroying a culture, would be forcefully restricting the use of the native languages, such as forbidding the use of the native languages in schools. But I am not aware of this happening, nor was I arguing in support of that in any way.
Also, justifying a curriculum choice in schools is a far leap from justification of colonialism. I am very much against the forced subjugation of native peoples, but that is not the topic.
overall good points, but I'd like to expand on the one about forbidding languages at educational institutions:
a ban isn't even necessary to expediate the decline of a language; it's often enough to simply defund it.
teachers need funding, and simply not giving any to other languages or other cultural curriculum is effectively the same as a ban.
few schools and administrations would shoulder the costs of "extra" curriculum, because few have the funds to do so, particularly when it comes to minorities...
source: am part of such a minority (in central europe though) and our state actually sponsors extra language classes, courses, and cultural clubs, activities, and events in order to preserve our unique identity and culture.
it's still trending towards extinction though, as such minorities tend to do...
tl;dr: no need for a ban, just withhold a bit of funding and it will die out within a few generations...
That's fair, but it assumes that mandating one language means that the other language will be defunded. Is that happening here? I think ideally both languages (national language, native language) would be funded and studied
oh, that wasn't really the point; i just pointed out that a ban isn't the only way to undermine a culture or language!
it was in addition to what you wrote, not meant as a counterpoint.
Somehow I doubt China is funding or encouraging any kind of ethnic difference.
Did you read my messages at all? As stated, I very much oppose the colonisation and forced subjugation and assimilation of native peoples, including in Australia. But I do not think that English being a mandatory subject in Australia is a bad thing.
Is the idea of someone knowing more than one language, so foreign to you?
The actual struggles of the uhigurs is entirely alien to either what western media makes up or just imagining China is copying western imperialism despite having different material pressures.
Its not an english word lmao would you rather I spell it using the alphabet they use?
bold move for you to criticize me for assuming someone can’t pronounce it when you can’t even spell it.
You lost all credibility. Better luck next time.
The person who lived in Urumqi is more credible.
I have pictures
Continue closing your eyes and covering your ears lmao
Like you? No thanks.
"No u" doesnt really make sense when you're talking to someone who saw with their own eyes
My god… you really like to embarrass yourself in public. Is this a kink?