I think pointing this out for people is valuable radicalization though. It cracks the shell of liberal naivety and shows how much of what the establishment considers as acceptable political change is manipulated behind the scenes.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those people aren’t fit to lick jesse jackson boots, so seems to me there is a degradation in that crack the shell->find radical pipeline since the 70s. I don’t understand why people aren’t running on radical shit lib shit: slash pentagon budget, remove military bases, bomb tel aviv, declassify cia docs. They are all popular, in a fashion, outside of blob and i never hear them from anyone. It’s not even means of production or proletariat, just idiosyncratic american conspiracy mix, throw in some rants about high beams and google, and it might be enough to at least get to 2nd place