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[–] FaygoRedPop@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (13 children)

But I still gotta go to fucking work tomorrow

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

well technically you don't gotta

It's just very helpful for things like mortgages and bills and stuff.

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don't gotta, but you gotta. Because for some reason some people decided it's not a right to have food/water/shelter, it's something you have to earn.

Because transactional relationships are easier than dealing with feelings. I guess.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You gotta put in if you're gonna get out

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From each according to their ability to each according to their need. Food, water, and shelter are needs and should be provided for unconditionally. We have the ability to fulfill these needs and not doing so is immoral. Some people are not able or willing to contribute to the collective good unless these needs have already been met, we all benefit from uplifting the destitute.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds great until everyone wants a free ride, then there's no one left to peddle.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fortunately that is not how people or societies function

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and I'm very glad we have a social safety net. But that wouldn't be available if everyone just figured they didn't want to work and had a right to food and shelter without contributing.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think you understand what I am saying. Human beings, as a group, are not just going to stop working just because the coercion of starvation and homelessness no longer exist. Human beings ache for purpose and community can provide that. People don't hate labor, they hate being forced to labor for next to nothing in return. What you view as human laziness is better explained by alienation and hopelessness.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I work. I'm lazy. I wouldn't work if I didn't get paid and didn't need to get paid. I would still do stuff, but not what other people wanted / needed. Money helps regulate what's important in society to work on. Don't get me wrong, the current system in the U.S. especially is completely fucked. But trading work for standard value units isn't a bad way to organize things.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You're right that it isn't a "bad" way but it isn't the only way nor is it the best way. In a socialist society your lack of labor would be a concern to other people. They'd ask questions like, "why aren't you contributing", "is something wrong/is your mental health okay", and "why are we working so hard to provide for you when, despite being able bodied, you refuse to help provide for us all?" Some people would be immune to this social pressure sure but I argue that the majority of people aren't. Besides, in a socialist society the amount of labor required of humanity would be reduced with time. Those socially useless endeavors would be encouraged as long as they aren't harmful to the rest of us. I think you feel the way you do because you don't have a sense of duty to your community as a result of your community either not supporting you or not even existing.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Take to the woods! Shed the things of man! Find what it means to be alive.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

So you want to say they don't have to, but they're conditioned to do it. As if.. as if you were trying to say that we live in the society

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