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my fate awaits me (lemmy.ml)

submitted 17 hours ago by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml to c/me_irl@lemmy.world

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

From each according to their ability to each according to their need. Food, water, and shelter are needs and should be provided for unconditionally. We have the ability to fulfill these needs and not doing so is immoral. Some people are not able or willing to contribute to the collective good unless these needs have already been met, we all benefit from uplifting the destitute.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds great until everyone wants a free ride, then there's no one left to peddle.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fortunately that is not how people or societies function

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and I'm very glad we have a social safety net. But that wouldn't be available if everyone just figured they didn't want to work and had a right to food and shelter without contributing.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't think you understand what I am saying. Human beings, as a group, are not just going to stop working just because the coercion of starvation and homelessness no longer exist. Human beings ache for purpose and community can provide that. People don't hate labor, they hate being forced to labor for next to nothing in return. What you view as human laziness is better explained by alienation and hopelessness.