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Graphene vs /e/ os (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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A question as old as time, I know.

I'm getting away from Google and I've done the easy stuff: CoMaps, Proton mail (I know, not the best move), aveslibre, etc. I currently don't have the time (or the knowledge base) to learn how to self host, but hopefully that will replace Drive and such in the future.

But I digress. I'm looking at a new OS for my phone. I'm currently in a contract with a phone that is incompatible with alternative OSs. Graphene needs a Pixel. Used, they're $150-400. /e/OS will run on a Motorola or whatever and those are like $80.

There's also the option of going full Fairphone with /e/os and I like that idea in the future.

The internet people tell me that Graphene is the best due to ease of installation, privacy, and security.

I don't need a lot of security. I just want Google to stop suckling all that sweet, sweet data from my teat.

What are your thoughts?

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[–] voxel@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

LineageOS is not "Google-free". The OS still connects to various Google services by default, even without Google Play Services installed.

https://lineageos.org/ https://www.kuketz-blog.de/lineageos-weder-sicher-noch-datenschutzfreundlich-custom-roms-teil4/

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously Graphene OS is the current gold standard for privacy, but you can run a Lineage OS device without Google Play Services, with only free/libre software installation sources, and without the telemetry for those users who can't or won't use current GOS. This is obviously a considerable improvement over a Chinese or other commercial manufacturer.

But, yes, if you can run GOS rather than LOS, you should.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This pretty much not adressing what I said at all. I use LineageOS myself and it's miles better than the Stock Operating Systems of most if not all devices they support. But we shouldn't mislead people, LineageOS is not fully "degoogled" and uses some Google services, even without the Google Play Services installed.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You're engaging in a strawman. Privacy is not a boolean choice, there are degrees. Making a few connections to some Google servers is not the same as having stock Android.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

You seem to be unable to understand simple English, so I'll end the conversation here.