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why do so many people seem to have a hierarchy allergy round these Western leftist parts

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[โ€“] spectre@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep, nobody would imagine a clip from Band of Brothers where they are under heavy fire and then they have a debate and a vote before they decide their next move, or the sargeant screaming "GET FUCKING MOVING", and then the soldier starts quibbling about "ummm you're violating my rights...."

That would all be ridiculous to even imagine. In war you need to follow orders you may not understand because the only way out is to work as a collective unit. The officers may fuck it up, but it's far too latefor that to matter now, if you don't take orders you are weakening the group and making yourself more vulnerable.

Engaging with "class war", but not being willing to take orders is a contradiction.

[โ€“] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

There is a big difference between an individual giving orders (and having the power to) in a tense moment, and an individual being the one who gives orders about everything all the time.

The ones who arrange the battles and the ones who arrange the councils are not the same, nor should they be. That equivalence is a flaw of Western civilization going back to classical Greece or even earlier.