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Microsoft Authenticator might exclude GrapheneOS in the future due to root detection (piunikaweb.com)

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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With that money, get a second one and it's it only during work ours. Doesn't even need connection, use WiFi of tethering.

[–] cole 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

that sounds annoying. I'd rather just have it all on the same device. I can enable and disable work apps on a schedule if I'm bothered. I don't want to deal with two devices really

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If youre in the US and your company is paying your phone bill, they are legally allowed to access your location via cell towers at any given moment. That, in combination with the fact that they can also legally take the phone from you (You have company trade secrets on that device if you install their software), I dont see the point in risking not having a 2nd device.

[–] cole 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

you're gonna have to cite some sources here because I don't think there is actually a legal requirement for these things.

the work apps require Internet access to even open and the contents are encrypted. this has all been figured out

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Legitimate Reasons for Employer Device Access There are valid reasons why an employer might need to access an employee’s phone, regardless of ownership: Legal Compliance: To comply with legal requests such as subpoenas or investigations. Security Breaches: To investigate potential security breaches or data leaks. Violation of Company Policy: To investigate violations of company policies regarding acceptable use. Employee Termination: Upon termination, to retrieve company data and ensure a smooth transition.

https://www.aeanet.org/can-an-employer-take-your-phone/#Can_an_Employer_Take_Your_Phone_Exploring_Workplace_Device_Confiscation

Let's be generous and say your employer considers your phone a personal device even though they pay for the service.

For an employer to legally track a personal phone’s location, they need explicit consent from the employee and must have narrowly defined policies.

https://legalclarity.org/can-my-employer-track-my-work-phone-location/

Is there anything stopping them from hiding a tracking policy in your contract? Did you fully read the contract to check? Would allowing them to pay for the service count as consent in court? IANAL, but why would you risk it, when you could just have a work phone you only use for work.

[–] cole 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

You stated that employers can use cell towers to track your phone.

This is not true. If my employer pays for my cell phone service then it is not "their" phone. It is mine because I still own the device.

Moreover, they do not directly pay for my cell service. Instead, I am reimbursed monthly.

They do not have any special permissions or legal basis they would not otherwise have by doing this.

And yes, I have read my contract (you should too!)