this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2023
147 points (100.0% liked)

askchapo

23075 readers
151 users here now

Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.

Rules:

  1. Posts must ask a question.

  2. If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.

  3. Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.

  4. Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net
replaceable@hexbear.net
VILenin@hexbear.net
EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net
SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net
ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net
khizuo@hexbear.net
Sulvy@hexbear.net
147
Will libs have a collective realization about Ukraine like they did with Iraq or will they stay stubborn in it forever? (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago by autismdragon@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
120 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the "well Russia was the aggressor" thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.

also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It'll be like conservatives with Vietnam: a stab in the back narrative (albeit less visceral due to it being a proxy war.)

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, "they didn't let us win" cope.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

we gotta start making flowcharts for the different stages of manipulative rhetoric they use as an issue progresses from background to forefront to background again