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The attackers’ ability to spare newly established adjacent facilities (such as the Martyr Absalan clinic) and their glaring failure to avoid an elementary school operating at full capacity and packed with 170 girls leaves us with two scenarios, both unequivocally condemnatory: Either US and Israeli forces relied, in striking the vicinity of the Asif Brigade, on a very old, outdated intelligence target bank (dating to before 2013), which would constitute grave negligence and reckless disregard for civilian lives; or the strike was carried out deliberately and with prior knowledge to inflict maximum societal shock and undermine popular support for Iran’s military establishment.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure. Unless they were fired for being "woke" and replaced by people who think bombing Iran will help usher in Armageddon and the second coming of Christ.

What has he done to make you think he deserves the benefit of the doubt? What in this administration makes you remain confident that somewhere deep down there's a responsible adult who'll calm things down? They bragged about letting Elon musk fire all those people.

Why do you think the people who ran Afghanistan wouldn't bomb a school? They bombed weddings. Hospitals. Shot children.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure. Unless they were fired for being “woke” and replaced by people who think bombing Iran will help usher in Armageddon and the second coming of Christ.

Yes, no guarantee it will stay that way going into the future.

What has he done to make you think he deserves the benefit of the doubt?

Who's "he"? Hagseth is assumed to be an average red-flavour grifter, Trump is Trump and gets no benefit of anything.

Why do you think the people who ran Afghanistan wouldn’t bomb a school? They bombed weddings. Hospitals. Shot children.

What makes you think I want to try and prove a negative against someone who's about to whip out a bunch of isolated anecdotes?

I don't, I'm just going to ignore any further inquiries on this.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, they're already replaced people with people like I was describing. That's not a hypothetical.

"he" referred to hegseth, who you seemed to be assuming probably didn't believe the rhetoric he was using.

No one asked you to prove a negative. You expressed that the war being waged by the people who were in Afghanistan was a reassurance that they cared about the optics of brutality. I asked why you think that, given the things that happened in Afghanistan. "Things they've done" aren't somehow irrelevant anecdotes.

We're talking about the distinction between people who think civilian casualties are justifiable as opposed to those who think it's a tool.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, what are you asking me to prove about Afghanistan, then? 95% chance that was going to segue into "clean war exists and happened there" vs. a specific conspiratorial worldview. I'm not going to play that.

who you seemed to be assuming probably didn’t believe the rhetoric he was using.

He has no actual relevant background besides Fox News shill. Some of those guys are progressive in private, they just like the money.

Hell, even if that wasn't true, politician is a sales job, left or right. Source: Do politics in real life, too.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't ask you to prove anything. You were reassured that the people in Afghanistan being in charge here meant there was someone who would cut off any of the idiocy certain types of people think make a good war. I wondered why, given the administrations rhetoric, their willingness to fire people who might push back, who they've put in charge, and what those people have done.

What specific conspiratorial world view do you think I'm going to express?
I think some people think we could have won in Vietnam or Afghanistan if we just hadn't "held back". They're not secretive about that opinion. I think those people have political power right now because I see no reason not to believe them when they say so and they seem to be behaving in line with that belief.

I'm unsure why you think him having no relevant experience makes him less likely to hold a profoundly awful opinion. If he had experience I'd be more likely to think it was just talk, but given the lack of experience, being a talking head, and the company he keeps I see no reason to think he's secretly holding different opinions.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

What specific conspiratorial world view do you think I’m going to express?

The Lemmy one. The other 5% is that you're just a pacifist or something.

Maybe they don't think of themselves that way, but if you believe that the whole world is not as it seems and being kept that way by a small group of evil people, and have made a movement around it, that counts.

I’m unsure why you think him having no relevant experience makes him less likely to hold a profoundly awful opinion. If he had experience I’d be more likely to think it was just talk, but given the lack of experience, being a talking head, and the company he keeps I see no reason to think he’s secretly holding different opinions.

Shill is still a skilled job.