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I'm positive, thanks. 2x8GB CL16 DDR5 RAM currently sells for ~$250.
You’re absolutely right, that is an ass laptop.
Almost as ass as a an irreparable, unupgradeable $700 Macbook with a phone processor and 8GB of RAM.
Now that the neo has been announced at $499 for students with twice the storage of your example, care to reevaluate the overall value differences?
That Celeron ain't got nothing on any phone processor Apple's made in at least the last half decade lol
I'm not sure the Macbook Neo will make sense, but I know for sure that docked tablet doesn't. They're also ass to repair, performance doesn't exist and the screen belongs in 2008.
A fancy processor is meaningless without RAM. It's like a Lamborghini rolling on bicycle tires.
This is already less powerful than an old iPad. My SO is looking for a cheap laptop and this one is one I would tell her to avoid like the plague.
Power is meaningless without RAM. It's like a Lamborghini rolling on bicycle tires.
The bottleneck of that laptop is CPU and drive, and with 8 gigs of RAM it would still be. 16GB RAM is the only thing that laptop has going for it.
Honestly, as a Certified Apple Hater I still have no doubts that the laptop with the A18Pro will run circles around the one you showed and will be a better bang for the buck.
Intel celeron N150?
I mean, yeah, technically it's got more ram, but that's literally the only thing going for it. I've got a mini-pc server with that exact CPU. It's good enough for what I need it for, by my wife's 5 generation old M1 Air from 2020 trounces it several times over in terms of speed, even with 8GB.
An N150 w/16GB RAM is gonna be way more useful than a A16 or whatever with 8GB. Most people will never touch the potential power of their processor but they certainly will be doing a bunch of shit simultaneously.
Categorically: nope.
Seriously: yep.
My my, you do have a singular wit.
Yes because your comment was so witty...?
As an owner of both an n150 minipc with 16gb of ram and an m1 8g air I can assure you this statement is false. The first is a toy compared to the latter. You can use it as inexpensive home server, but not as a work machine.
I also own both and disagree. But this isn't an M1, regardless.
I mean, if that fits your use-case, I'm not gonna tell you not to get it. Plenty of folks just need a machine for scrolling a social media feed, documents, and Youtube.
But anyone who wants more than what amounts to a Chromebook can get it pretty affordably with the low-end macbooks. Effectively tripling your speed for another $200 is definitely worth it for lots of folks, and memory paging is a lot faster than it used to be.
Benchmarks can be hit or miss, but aren't totally useless:
N150: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N150
Low-end M1 from 2020: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M1+8+Core+3200+MHz
And finally, the A19 they're talking about using: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+A19+Pro
These are CPU benchmarks, they don't account for available RAM.
It's a celery with a 128GB emmc. Even with 16GB of ram it'll be so slow.
So pull it out and replace it. A 128GB (like Macs come with) NVMe stick is $50.
Emmc is not nvme. They're not compatible or interchangeable. You'll be limited by the max emmc speeds for storage. It's probably why it comes with an external drive, because they know just how slow the drive is.
It has an NVMe slot.
Nope, still wrong. It has an e key m.2 for Wi-Fi.
Put up, or shut up.
...no, it has NVMe. Why are you making this up?
...what am I supposed to "put up", exactly?
NVME is not a port. M.2 is a port, and there’s lots of versions of it. You can’t put an NVME SSD into all of them.
Which is exactly why I specified "NVMe port" and not M.2
What in the world is an NVMe port?
What they said
Jesus Christ... would you drop the pedantry? It's childish.
I mean "what is an Ethernet port? Did you mean a RJ-45 port supporting Ethernet?" "What is an ATM machine, did you mean an ATM?"
Don't be that fuckin guy.
I wonder what he could have possibly meant when he said an NVMe port?
How in the world is that pedantic? I was genuinely asking. Yes, the reasonable expectation is that a "NVMe port" is an M2 slot but they have already mentioned that it isn't one. So what is it? Your example doesn't make sense either. There's no one here saying that their Ethernet port isn't an RJ-45.
How about you don't be that guy and read the whole context instead of attacking me about it?
I just checked out the specs, that model does not support NVMe. So yeah, there's that.
It does. It's not listed in the specs but there are teardown videos that show it. Austin Evans did one and showed this.
Better to get a used Thinkpad with how well those hold up being over thousand dollars, but get discounted steeply to hundreds with companies offloading them once warranty is up. Can get actual nice Ryzen CPUs and have a proper storage.
True, but now you're talking about used PCs.
Yep, and used in this case is much better than the new cheap laptops with crappy specs.
I mean that's often going to be the case. That's why you don't compare used PCs to new ones.