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[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lenovo is walking on the razor's edge. They are still a chinese company and can't help themselves. My G23 had Lenovo's adware instaled after a version upgrade, kept pushing for Live Lock Screens. Had to uninstall the crap on the user through adb, just disabling it didn't work.

You have to think and view this deal as GrapheneOS with Lenovo, not with Motorola.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

razor's edge

Razr's edge

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you can load vanilla graphene on to it without compromise who gives a shit?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who cares? The people that aren’t technically adept and yet want out of Apple/Android.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Installing graphene is requires you to plug your phone into your laptop running google chrome and:

  1. Visit a web page
  2. Click three buttons
  3. Click a setting in the settings menu on your phone
  4. Restart your phone

If you can't do that then you're already incapable of operating a phone, and therefore its a moot point.

If the issue is you cant find the information then your skill issue isn't with tech its with using a search engine.

Stop infantalizing people, and maybe google and apple wont be able to use the widespread expectance of instant convenience to normalize corporate malware like they have for the past 15 years.

I'm so sick of people acting like reading a web page and clicking through an install wizard requires a fucking C.S. degree. Its both insulting to the average user, and those with more knowledge.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah the elitist attitude. “It’s easy for me do then it’s easy for everyone” “if you can’t do it then there’s something wrong with you”

Which ignores the fact that way too many apps and websites have their interfaces totally fucked up. So because of that many people just get really confused and then can’t figure it out.

Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look. So instead of pulling a crappy attitude try looking at it from the other side.

Either way. Have a nice day. Bye.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look.

Yes it absolutely is and this is literally the problem I'm pointing out.

When you say its too hard it implies its because its difficult, which means it needs to be made easy.

Your issue is not educational, nor accessibility. Its that you don't want to put fucking effort in. You want it to be done for you.

That's it. That's literally what I've been trying to get out of you fucks forever. That its not how hard something is. Its that you need it spoon fed.

You should feel shame for that.

Everyone who expects that should.

You're an adult, you should be able to put effort into the machines that run your daily life.

Elitism means I think I'm better than you because I'm smarter, I don't. I think you're being a lazy fuck, and are capable of doing basic things, but don't want to, its right here in your comment:

they don’t look

You're capable, you just don't.

This is like bitching you didn't know your car needed gas or an oil change, then blaming it on the people who knew.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I installed LineageOS on my Motorola. No adware to be seen. With an entirely separate ROM I dont see how it could be a problem