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“Telegram is not a private messenger. There’s nothing private about it. It’s the opposite. It’s a cloud messenger where every message you’ve ever sent or received is in plain text in a database that Telegram the organization controls and has access to it”

“It’s like a Russian oligarch starting an unencrypted version of WhatsApp, a pixel for pixel clone of WhatsApp. That should be kind of a difficult brand to operate. Somehow, they’ve done a really amazing job of convincing the whole world that this is an encrypted messaging app and that the founder is some kind of Russian dissident, even though he goes there once a month, the whole team lives in Russia, and their families are there.”

" What happened in France is they just chose not to respond to the subpoena. So that’s in violation of the law. And, he gets arrested in France, right? And everyone’s like, oh, France. But I think the key point is they have the data, like they can respond to the subpoenas where as Signal, for instance, doesn’t have access to the data and couldn’t respond to that same request.  To me it’s very obvious that Russia would’ve had a much less polite version of that conversation with Pavel Durov and the telegram team before this moment"

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[–] user_name@lemmy.world 106 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

Why is this interview happening inside a sauna?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 hours ago

for the thumbnail :)

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 58 points 11 hours ago

She likes putting guests on the hot seat.

[–] xela@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you watch the video - its explained starting at 1:13, Moxie built it himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRi7mAGp7I

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

That's fucking awesome

[–] Wudi@feddit.uk 16 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Why is this interview happening inside a sauna?

It's his favorite sauna. He built it himself.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DNV-qUfPZJ0/?hl=en

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 16 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Why did he invite the hot reporter chick to his sauna? would be the follow-up question...

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It's a sauna on a boat. She's out in the middle of nowhere with some dude she barely knows. You know, she looks around and what does she see? Nothin' but open ocean.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

That explains that awkward interaction in the interview. It's like an interview happening in the Black Lodge.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 23 points 8 hours ago

Because of the implication...

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 hours ago

it's the D.E.N.N.I.S. system working

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago

If I had a personal sauna, I'd invite everyone. But I'm not from puritan central (USA) so that might be a foreign concept to some readers.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 hours ago

You answered yourself.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Somehow all these years I thought that Marlinspike is either Swedish or Finnish, so the sauna would be on brand.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

Right? If they're just chatting this should be happening in a jacuzzi with nice glasses of milk 🍼 👍

[–] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Why not? I thought it was een interesting choice ;-P

[–] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Like in a sauna you should be completely exposed or something

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 8 hours ago

They say the trick to public speaking is to picture the audience naked, but I actually prefer to do my interviews in a sauna so the audience pictures me naked.