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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How many MLs do I have to quote saying shit like that before you'll stop bootlicking for them? Give me a firm number.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think showing me a few examples of internet randos saying something would be a good use of either of our times. I'd have to look into who's posting it and where to judge how much weight I put into each example.

I know that in any ML space I'd have any respect for such ideas wouldn't fly. Actions explained by material conditions aren't a indicator of "goodness" nor is the USSR infallible by any stretch of the imagination.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think showing me a few examples of internet randos saying something would be a good use of either of our times.

Yeah, what I fucking thought. Keep bootlicking for your genocidal buddies, I'm sure they'll give you the bullet last. And you'll get to watch all the minorities they slaughter before they murder you. A bonus I'm sure you're thrilled about.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Would sinding you 100 examples of self proclaimed anarchists saying ridiculous shit be useful to you?

Maybe it'll turn out that 40 are "Anarcho-Capitalist" losers, 30 are outright trolls, and 10 are just weirdos. It's just not useful to anyone to attempt to debate in this way.

I know what I believe, and what I think those I respect believe. Showing me a bunch of examples of randos saying something else just isn't doing much.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Would sinding you 100 examples of self proclaimed anarchists saying ridiculous shit be useful to you?

It would call into question me claiming something was a 'strawman' if you demonstrated that it was a legitimately held position from members of a group, yes. Sorry that you're incapable of parsing that.

Maybe it’ll turn out that 40 are “Anarcho-Capitalist” losers, 30 are outright trolls, and 10 are just weirdos. It’s just not useful to anyone to attempt to debate in this way.

I can quote some big names if you prefer. But of course, you'd find any reason to continue your bootlicking for genocide than acknowledge that, either.

I know what I believe,

Yeah, in camps. Death camps, work camps, and international camps.