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[–] CreamyJalapenoSauce@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'm only being pedantic. Toml is not bad. Yaml I personally don't like because I don't approve of semantically required whitespace but I know I'm in the minority there.

It's not the norm in smaller companies, but big companies can use config servers where an app will retrieve its config on startup.
Better hope it's built in. I don't remember the last time I verified a Content-Length was accurate. Also this generally applies to networking; disk writes don't get this same verification especially if a process is killed mid-write.
True point, no real notes. I've recently been dealing with streaming JSON for AI, it's SOO verbose for the few tokens that come across in each message. I don't know how gRPC wasn't chosen, or at least made an option, but oh well.

You make good, valid points and I know I'm talking about edge cases that require the stars to align to break. It reminds me of an old, not-quite-relevant-but-oh-well saying "a 'one in a million' chance at 1GHz happens every millisecond." The law of large numbers isn't always on our side.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Whitespace being part of semantics is always a bad design decision. You're not alone in this. I wish this was more widely accepted. But alas, it's not. For a configuration language I can accept it a bit more. But for a programming language it's a big faux pas in my opinion (looking at you python).

[–] crater2150@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

I was in the same camp when I had to use Python on the job, but when Scala introduced (optional) significant whitespace, I actually grew to like it a lot. I think the important difference to Python is, that with a good type system and compile time checks a whitespace error is basically always a compile time error in Scala. That's also for me it's worse in a configuration language (unless you have a schema file for validation, which is rarely the case sadly)