This was suggested to me by another user in the current big thread about this. I haven't finished watching it yet. It's from Poddy Mouth, a black creator. Apparently the video has perspectives from black people with Tourette's included. Might be valuable in this moment.
This is a (very short, < 5 minutes) video from a black elected official with Tourette's. He takes the position that an acknowledgement or apology is necessary. I think this was before the subsequent statement mentioned in the video linked in the post title was made (the following day), so I don't know if that statement would meet the standard this person had in mind for addressing the harm caused.
As I said in my other comments, I don't have the energy right now to really engage with this discussion further, and I don't want to accidentally cause harm by doing so. I just thought this video also belonged in this thread. Also as I said, if you have other such videos please do post them in this thread or in their own post.
Edit: this video, similar to the one linked in the post title, I got from a comment by another user in the previous thread.
I have been asked by another user to include the following info in the post body, which might be relevant to the discussion.
i think you should link this article directly from the guy with tourettes in the post: https://archive.is/GS647
this bit in particular would be helpful i think
Since the fallout, Davidson’s team shares that he’s reached out to the studio handling “Sinners” in order to directly apologize to Jordan, Lindo and production designer Hannah Beachler.
It has been pointed out that the discussions that happened on this post can be hard to follow for people who did not see prior posts discussing this subject. I think I wanted to avoid encouraging directly transferring the arguments from prior posts, but that was probably ridiculous to think. I have added them below.
Previous post: https://hexbear.net/post/7763428
Post before that: https://hexbear.net/post/7750273
I am disabled & white and I think the best thing to do in this situation is to sit down. Not everything needs to be commented on, or reacted to -- from our perspective at least. We think that our perspective is extremely important, but actually we could use to be a lot more quiet in situations like this. And it disappoints me that I see people arguing about this, when really we should be listening to Black people. And not just one voice, but many voices that have talked about this recently (especially the most marginalized and relevant to the situation.)
No. If someone says that tourettes is equivalent to bigotry, and that trying to inform them of the nature of the disease is too, then that is ignorance at best. And their skin color, the systemic bigotry they have faced, the racist nature of society and my inability to truly understand the impact of this does not make that not ignorant.
Are you white? Do you have black skin?
You’re creating strawmen arguments that pretty much align with probably the vast majority of right wing racists who are engaging in this discourse. Nobody should have to apologize for their disease. But if you hurt someone, regardless of the conditions you have, you should apologize. It’s pretty simple. But this discourse has really gone too far, it was a mistake and of course, the culture warriors want it to continue.
Pitting black people against neurodivergent folks or really any minority group is right wing nirvana. ‘If someone with a gun to their head had to say the nword, would you forgive them if they did’ sort of fever dream scenario conjured up by some 4channer
We are literally seeing the exact thing i am pointing out on hexbear, it is not a right wing canard, I am not aligning myself with the right wing.
I am not a minority subject to racist discrimination. In fact my comment would make little sense if I were. But I am disabled and work with disabled people. And my perspective in a discourse which now sees people tripling or quadrupling down on refusing to learn how disability works is not invalid.
Is anyone on Hexbear saying ‘tourettes is equivalent to bigotry’? Because if not this is a wild reframing of the argument.
no everyone must vaguepost, context and true understanding is forbidden here
Im nit really up for being gaslit on this one chief
What are you talking about? How are you feeling gaslit right now?
You're not fooling anyone here. You can see the posts, I can see the posts.
What posts are you talking about? You haven’t put up a single piece of evidence and keep posting vague bullshit that can easily pass as racist triangulation so show the fucking receipts.
and honestly, I have seen a lot of compassion being extended towards the guy, and are understanding of his condition. "I feel bad for everyone involved" is something I hear a lot. The worst offenders being people who are more privileged (not on this site, but famous ppl)
Unfortunately I will not be responding to or reading any responses to this, but please take what I said into consideration instead of responding defensively.