This was suggested to me by another user in the current big thread about this. I haven't finished watching it yet. It's from Poddy Mouth, a black creator. Apparently the video has perspectives from black people with Tourette's included. Might be valuable in this moment.
This is a (very short, < 5 minutes) video from a black elected official with Tourette's. He takes the position that an acknowledgement or apology is necessary. I think this was before the subsequent statement mentioned in the video linked in the post title was made (the following day), so I don't know if that statement would meet the standard this person had in mind for addressing the harm caused.
As I said in my other comments, I don't have the energy right now to really engage with this discussion further, and I don't want to accidentally cause harm by doing so. I just thought this video also belonged in this thread. Also as I said, if you have other such videos please do post them in this thread or in their own post.
Edit: this video, similar to the one linked in the post title, I got from a comment by another user in the previous thread.
I have been asked by another user to include the following info in the post body, which might be relevant to the discussion.
i think you should link this article directly from the guy with tourettes in the post: https://archive.is/GS647
this bit in particular would be helpful i think
Since the fallout, Davidson’s team shares that he’s reached out to the studio handling “Sinners” in order to directly apologize to Jordan, Lindo and production designer Hannah Beachler.
It has been pointed out that the discussions that happened on this post can be hard to follow for people who did not see prior posts discussing this subject. I think I wanted to avoid encouraging directly transferring the arguments from prior posts, but that was probably ridiculous to think. I have added them below.
Previous post: https://hexbear.net/post/7763428
Post before that: https://hexbear.net/post/7750273
You're the one in control with a car, you can make choices which don't lead to harm. A person with tourettes has absolutely no choice about saying whatever it makes them say. To expect them to apologize for what their disability forces them to say is to expect them to apologize for their existence. You can exist without hitting people with your car, a person with tourettes can't exist without saying whatever it happens to be.
Yes, because he didn't really call anyone anything. If we're being real, his disability made a noise that people understandably misinterpreted as him calling someone a slur. But now you're acting as if he made a choice for which he should apologize. I assure you that if choice was a factor it wouldn't have happened.
A world in which people have to apologize for having a disability is a world in which people with disabilities just decide it's not worth it and self-isolate. I don't want to live in that world. That sucks, and you suck for trying to reinforce it.
You can imagine he didn't call anyone anything but that's untrue. Maybe it's not technically directed at someone but 4 Black people got called N***R. This is a fact choice or not.
In his own movie he said sorry after saying fuck the queen. So now what?
And white people are only expected to apologize for harm caused by disability but Black people get arrested or likely murder, need names ? Kanye West is known is have a few disabilities, he shouldn't apologize for them? ( not to add we as Black folk still hold him to his actions knowing of his conditions)
from the linked video supposedly they had an announcement that he was in the crowd and not to take any offense to anything he said, maybe in the movie there was nothing like that which is why he apologized?
yes black people with disabilities are much more mistreated than white people with disabilities what is the point here?
i dont really think kanye should be held responsible for what's been happening, kinda like i think the fault lies with the bbc in this situation i think way more scrutiny needs to be leveled on the people around him exploiting him and the media for publicizing his very clear mental health issues in order to make money. kanye's worst fault is that he doesnt take meds that are supposed to help with bipolar but even then those texts he released from the guy who like, threatened to "send him back to zombieland" or something to that effect was fucking insane and probably should have seen jail time for it because that probably greatly contributes/contributed to his reluctance to take medicine.
How do you jump from this to assuming any sort of apology would be asking for forgiveness for their existence?