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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ease of use is one of the failings of the federation that needs to be addressed or it will never have a larger pool of users.

[–] morto@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But can it really be addressed? Centralized systems will probably always be easier to use. For example, if you want to follow a lemmy community, it will be community@somewhere instead of just the community name, and it will be possible to have competing communities with the same same but different servers. This will always leave people confused, and it's something inherent to the federated model

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s part of the problem. Confusion like this just leads people to not engage with the platform. I suppose it is what it is and just enjoy this place while there are still people here.

[–] morto@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To complement my previous comment, I believe the best course for us would be, instead of trying to address something that will never be better than in centralized networks, to try creating things that are great and exclusive to the fediverse. People can deal with minor inconveniences if they get some unique experience in exchange

[–] frischkaesbagett@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Actually deltachat as a federated chatclient feels nearly as easy as signal. Just login to mail account, done. Just one setting right now really annoys me: You see all the mails in the inbox. I don't know why that is not turned off as default.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Open source content serving algorithms? We’d need to classify the content and have a server that recommends based on the algorithm. Also, user tracking to some degree (but maybe that can be handled locally?)

[–] ElegantBiscuit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

I don’t see how it couldn’t theoretically be done on the user’s end with the right client. Choose a certain feed and the client takes the information shared in the incoming post data like the title, description, community, vote count, and instance. Then isolates each post, classifies it, ranks it based on user preferences stored locally like upvote and downvote history, and the client then chooses the order of posts to show to the user. And if you wanted to go there you could even have a local simple machine learning model creating descriptions of image posts to cover everything.

Granted I actually know nothing about programming, but I don’t think you’d actually be processing that much data if you kept the algorithm simple. All it actually has to do is just choose a ranking based on metrics and keywords and assigned values. It also doesn’t have to achieve maximum retention or have single digit millisecond load time, it just has to give people a customized experience.

The problem is that all this overhead and maintenance would require some form of monetization, like injecting ads into the feed. Something like that has almost no demand right now, because the options we have for sorting are good enough and the people who want custom algorithms don’t know what federation means and aren’t paying. And honestly I think it might be better without it, because personally I don’t want lemmy to go mainstream and am happy with where it is now. I sort by top of the day in All, which basically crowdsources ranking anyways.