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I highly highly highly recommend two things to you if you haven't played this game. 1) Play it. 2) Play it as absolutely blind as humanely possible.
One of my all-time favorite gaming experiences, and all the more precious because you can never have the experience again without suffering severe memory loss. The fun and the journey is in learning and understanding the world, the history, the science, and the mechanics that lead you to finding the ultimate ending. And oh what an ending it is (although there are a few alternates)!
Trust me, just pick it up and play without knowing anything at all about it. Don't watch videos, don't look up wikis, don't read articles and don't read forums. This game is best enjoyed without even the smallest spoiler. All of the information is in the game that you need and it's all very very well thought out and executed. You'll explore and find secrets that lead to more secrets. You'll sometimes find yourself struggling to solve a problem, to put some pieces together, and then something will click into place and you'll suddenly understand so much. It's a great feeling. That's what this game is about.
If you do need to get help, only look in fan forums or subreddits. People there are fans and understand the value of discovery in this game, so they will only give you some hints to point you in the right direction rather than outright answers, as it should be.
I had done everything in the game and had trouble with one little thing that i wasn't piecing together to complete it, so i had to look up a hint for that, and everyone on the forums were really careful to only give as much information as you need, which i appreciate.
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Getting inside the ash twin project. I had even done all the quantum moon stuff - i wish that would have been integral to complete it or at least have given me bigger hints for getting insideI really love the DLC as well, it's more linear and thus more straightforward but it does a really good job at guiding you such that each discovery leads to the next one, and the tricks you learn to progress are really fun and creative.
Regarding your details...
Still trying to give no more than a hint here for any others that may read this. That one is probably the singular hardest puzzle to figure out. It really only has the one clue pointing out the twins' shared nature due to their proximity. Then on top of that, it basically requires you to use a your thrusters in a way that you really rarely ever have any other reason to use. It's a good way to make the solution well hidden even in plain sight, but it is typically a difficult one to figure out.Regarding that...
I was lucky to stumble into the ATP earlier than I should have, but I'm confused what you need thrusters for? I can't even imagine how thrusters factor into the entrance...trying to figure out how to say this without giving away too much...
You would want to be at the right place. The problem is that there's a struggle to be at the right place when the conditions are right. You can get lucky and stumble into the right place. But if you're being more intentional, your thrusters can help you do that. Just... not how you usually use them most of the time. They serve dual functions.Full spoilers
You don't need thrusters though? There's a little cubby in the teleporter room that you stand in to avoid being pushed by the sand, then you can simply walk into it when it's active. Did you use thrusters instead somehow?also full spoilers
If you hang out in the cubby and time it right, you don't need thrusters (or if you crash your ship on the bridge and use it as cover, which I've seen too). You can just step forward onto the pad in the time window and the teleporter triggers before you are sucked up but the sand column. If you dont notice the covered cubby and try to come from the opposite tower for the ember twin, or if you leave the cubby too early, you have to fight against that gravity. You can use your downward thrusters, though, to counteract that and still make it.