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Vivaldi browser and Qwant search engine? (piefed.social)

submitted 1 day ago by unknowablenight@piefed.social to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hello all! I've been making the switch from American to European tech, and was wondering your thoughts on Vivaldi browser and Qwant search engine.

Vivaldi is based on Chromium and iirc not fully open source, but is still suggested in European tech spaces, and has a pretty good privacy policy.

Qwant is not open source, though claims to not to sell personal data or store searches.

What are your thoughts and perhaps suggestions for alternatives?

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[–] Undertaker@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never use Chromium based browsers as it is coming from Google and gives it more power. The only alternative is Gecko / Firefox based: Fennec for Android and Librewolf for desktop.

[–] unknowablenight@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I agree to not be using something that comes from Chrome, but Chromium is open-source, so it's not like it's actively benefiting Google, right? (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Chromium is still controlled by Google though, and they way it benefits them is giving them market share and user base. It's not as direct as using Google, but indirectly still benefits them to have such massive market share with chromium that they can do whatever they want with it. See:manifest v3 and working against adblockers

[–] unknowablenight@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really see how that can be the case when Chromium is open-source, though I'm admittedly not very knowledgeable on this subject.

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's because Google are the main contributors to it, and as such have a lot of power over the directions it goes.

Here's a somewhat decent article I randomly found that explains it a bit better than I can

https://medium.com/@lowharris15/master-of-the-web-how-google-rules-the-internet-with-chromium-65c9e10bd7dd

[–] unknowablenight@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Ohhh, thank you for the information! I'll look into something like Waterfox then.