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Surveillance strategies in the UK and Israel often go global

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 50 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

they are evil, not necessarily clueless.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What is the fundamental difference. Evil men and arrogant idiots might as well be the same thing.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

focusing on the 'they are idiots' fallacy completely misdirects blame and disencourages deeper critical thought.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

the real misdirection is focusing on individuals and their blame. The real question is why does UK political system produces these people rule and how do they keep ruling.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 2 hours ago

Both parties were captured by the aristocracy/super rich, call them what you will, and they support a total surveillance of a population they obviously fear and want tools to persecute as they see fit. Starmer is a perfect example of this, he's done more damage arguably than the tories did in over a decade. Their betrayal of the country will throw the elections to the far right too, that is the only protest vote against the status quo, and they will affix themselves in power and implement even worse privacy.

A popular reform party would fix the problems but the aristocracy is too greedy and arrogant for that, thinking they can control a far right party or otherwise shut them out electorally indefinitely and continue to sell out the public to the rich, even as discontent is increasing and the plutocratic rot is visible on the surface and spread throughout the whole.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

sure, focusing on how dumb they are isn't very condusive to discussing the intricacies of capitalism.

seriously though, they do have a plan. we need to figure out ours.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Ironically that's kinda the argument being made in the document above