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[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is not as smart of a question as you want it to be. Unfortunately for you, not everything can be modeled mathematically, or if you wish to be extremely minute, not everything can be currently mathematically modeled efficiently and precisely because it would require knowledge or resources far eclipsing what we have available. If you just want to push up your glasses and ACKSHUALLY me, then it's also possible to do anything, hurr hurr.

To even fucking PRETEND that we can model a brain right now is hilarious to me, but to equate that to LLMs is downright moronic. Human brains are not created, trained, or used in any way similar to LLMs, no matter what anyone says, but you are insinuating that they are somehow similar??? They are a simulation of a learning algorithm, trained through brute force tactics, and used for pattern completion. That's just not how that works!

And yet, in spite of the petabytes of data they fucking jam into these pieces of shit, they still can't even draw hands correctly. They still can't figure out the seahorse emoji. They still don't know why strawberry has two Rs! They continuously repeat only the things they hear, and need to have these errors fixed manually. They don't know anything. And that's why they aren't intelligent. They are fed data points. They create estimations. But they do not understand what the connections between those points are. And no amount of pointing at humans will fix that.

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not what I said, why the fuck would I think we can model a brain right now

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably because you wanted to be pedantic and unserious.

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And you like to have sex with sewer rats you find at 3am, so long as we're lobbing accusations at each other.

[–] arnitbier@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Good game, so far so good, just wanted to drop in and say how much I love this response (to wit)

But also, how much I want you to understand that THAT guy is fucking right as hell, so I'd think about it a little bit 🙊🙊

But do hope you have a better one after that parts over with 😎 like keep on being witty, just dial back on the pretense there👍

Edit: Also wanted to add the idea that we don't actually know if our consciousness is valid, our inherint perceptions limit us is ways we cannot evade (and can only ignore) Thus we, as the beings we are cant just validate anything, effectively cant anyway. We are all, relying on some kind of, presumably brain derived but who knows? But definitely a PERCEPTION for every kind of so-called 'validation' we attempt. And because people cannot seem to even truly verify perception in and of itself, we must rely on the much simpler, just-in-case-it-all-actually-is-valid model. Which is presumably what a regular person lives under (whether they acknowledge that they are is basically immaterial)

I personally like perception problem/perception paradox for shorthand but its probably a termed philosophy idea already so establish your own guideline at their peril I suppose. You can't really fit 'valid' information into a framework of 'understood' from that point of view and it can be pretty scary and... uncanny, if your thinking about that deep enough. But that's okay! That dudes giving compelling evidence that intelligence(in so much as it can be perceived and witnessed by me)is not just a figment of the ol intellect but who actually fuckin knows anyways so better be worth that effort! 😹 (I like to take pedantic things to their logical conclusions, and now back to the regular life stuff 🙃😐)