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It's even trickier with EVs.
On the one hand you can charge your EV at home and no one knows about it.
On the other, you can't pay for a public charger with cash, there's always a trail. Cars have unique identifiers that are communicated to the charger when connected. Each time you charge in public they know exactly who are you and what car it is.
There's always plugshare - charge at a random person's house
because they designed it that way. it doesn't need to be designed that way.
and there's no reason you couldn't pay for charging your car in cash just like with a gas pump
State sponsored surveillance Flock cameras photographed the chat.
same is true when you fill up at a gas station...
You can pay with cash at a gas station.
Many smaller gas stations don't have automated license plate scanning systems to track customers. I'm not even sure if bigger gas stations do it.
It's not the gas station that is tracking you. It's the Flock cameras.
https://haveibeenflocked.com/
So I guess we don't have to worry about privacy in cars. Since everyone is tracked anyway being tracked by your car doesn't change anything.
also your phone...
But the car tracking you is another source of much more individualised data, and recordings of your conversations inside the car is much easier with better mics that a lot of cars have than a phone mic ...
Also it's one more party collecting the data so more risk of leaks etc.