A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

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Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People love to criticize the marketplace of ideas and sure it's imperfect... but what's he alternative? Covering your ears and going lalalalala is even less effective than persuasion.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Some of the options can’t be discussed on lemmy.world because of rule 1.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm sad at how selectively they use that rule

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Did you know that it’s illegal for you to say,
“I want to kill the president of the United States of America?”

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well I don't think that's very effective either but if we can't have a discussion then we'll just have to disagree.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s worked before. If only we’d had more premature antifascists, we might have nipped it in the bud before it enveloped most of Europe and China.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What worked was the might of an entire empire waging total war against another. I don't think any Lemmings have that power at their disposal.

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

As much as I hate to agree with Tankies, I think their point was that a more surgical method could have prevented things from boiling over into a world war.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People love to criticize the marketplace of ideas and sure it's imperfect... but what's he alternative?

Ban Zionists and Nazis and Fascist from all aspects of the public sphere.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

Sure, if you have total power over the media ecosystem. But we don't.

So the question has to be asked--are you banning Zionism from the public square or simply exiling anti Zionism into a small echo-chamber where no one will hear it anymore and Zionism will go unchallenged? This is my problem with this approach.