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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I live in Canada. You know, the country founded at the same time as yours by the same people that managed to NOT be a complete pile of shit because it wasn’t run by idiots like you.

Consider my statement suitably amended to "Wow. I did think the US public education system was bad, but if you think that the US is the worst-off of the British colonies, it’s clear that whatever backwater part of Canada you’re living in has it worse. You have my condolences."

I mean, at least in US schools, we aren't taught to believe in eugenics and the humane and enlightening nature of British imperialism. You must have had some awfully old textbooks in your school, because I know Canada has left that narrative largely behind.

I also notice you ignored this.

This the same British Empire which caused 100 million deaths in India alone, which it only ruled for a relatively short period of the Empire’s existence?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is funny about that is that India still exists and has people in it. What happened to the people that lived in your country before you got there? Do they teach you about that in schools?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What is funny about that is that India still exists and has people in it.

Ah, the old "Gray Wolf" line of "It couldn't be genocide because there are still Armenians left"

What happened to the people that lived in your country before you got there? Do they teach you about that in schools?

Jesus Christ.

What's worse?

Not knowing that Native Americans still exist in the USA?

Or this line coming from a Canadian without the slightest suggestion of awareness of how the First Nations were treated?

Yes, we are very much taught about the Native American genocides in the USA. I'm sorry you weren't taught about your own country's history with indigenous peoples.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh sorry, I forgot that Native Americans have their own country and a functioning economy. Is that what they teach you?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh sorry, I forgot that Native Americans have their own country and a functioning economy. Is that what they teach you?

Oh, in that case, I suppose the Nazis didn't commit genocide either. I mean, European Jews have their own country and a functioning economy. It's okay, so long as you leave a few alive! Truly in the spirit of all the finest genocidaires of history.

The USA still has Native Americans in it, just as India still has many of the peoples (plural, since it is quite apparent that your particular school education was lacking; India was not made of a generic ethnicity of "Indians") whom the Brits massacred in it.

I can't help but notice that you ignored the raised issue of the First Nations in Canada. Is that because you're ignorant, or is it because, as with your eugenics lines earlier, because you were taught to internalize a racist worldview?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What does the first nations of Canada have to do with comparing British Colonialism in India to American self-rule? Or have you forgotten that was YOUR argument?

India today is run by Indians. You can go visit, if they still let Americans in, and see for yourself. How many seats in congress do American Indians have?

So far you have defended slavery, the American genocide, and the American Education system as somehow being better than what the British did in India, despite the fact that the British left India half a century ago and your country is still actively fucking itself in the ass today.

Its amazing how easy it is to get you guys to defend your horrible history and present actions by suggesting that you could have just done literally anything else instead. No wonder your country is garbage.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What does the first nations of Canada have to do with comparing British Colonialism in India to American self-rule?

You're bashing the US for committing gebocide and minimizing everything the British Empire ever did, despite the Brits killing significantly more people. Then YOU brought Canada into it acting like it's got a squeaky-clean history and acting like the First Nations people have nothing to do with the conversation.

Go fucking look into how many mass graves of First Nations kids have been found near the Christian schools the Canadian government set up to "integrate" them, as if that forced process wasn't genocide in its own right, even if you ignored all the deaths. Not to mention that the Canadian government still refuses to acknowledge the deaths.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No. I am saying that British rule of the American Colonies was not worse than what those colonies did to themselves with independence. Is this REALLY too hard for you to follow?

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The British government deliberately set up those colonies to fall into chaos after they left via setting ethnic minorities up as a ruling class and setting borders that reinforced ethnic conflicts.

How are you so ignorant of history to not realize this?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago

So the reason America is a piece of shit country is because of what the British did in the 1700s?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What does the first nations of Canada have to do with comparing British Colonialism in India to American self-rule? Or have you forgotten that was YOUR argument?

Jesus Christ, do you not remember what was said? Have you forgotten the points you yourself brought up? Do I have to spoon-feed you our entire conversation up to this point?

India today is run by Indians.

Wow, I love that you completely ignored the point about British genocide and India not being made of a generic 'Indian' ethnicity who've survived. Peak reading comprehension. Keep this up, and your region of Canada might tie with Mississippi for public school quality.

So far you have defended slavery,

Fucking lmao.

"Opposing the British Empire is defending slavery!" - least braindead imperialist cretin

the American genocide,

What?

and the American Education system as somehow being better than what the British did in India,

Jesus Christ, is your reading comprehension really that poor?

... and for that matter, I think yes, the shitty American education system is still better than murdering 100 milliion people for imperial ambitions. I'm sorry that you prefer genocide.

Its amazing how easy it is to get you guys to defend your horrible history and present actions by suggesting that you could have just done literally anything else instead.

[low whistle]