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[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your definition of unemployed differed wildly from the state's definition. E.g. writers, artists who doesn't had a day to day job in the classical sense were also considered unemployed if they didn't agree fully with the state. What if the state said the only job you can get is in a stone mine in Siberia? This was also used frequently for opposition people. They couldn't get a job in their profession, so they had to choose between a not fitting job and between prison. Is this what you want?

About famines. You compare it to tsarist Russia, and I can't find any notable one from the 19th century. I wouldn't compare it to pre-industrial revolution as it was a totally different times. And why don't you compare it from the list of olympic medals?

And you wrote "No one was starving" then "I literally said one famine".... Please, at least be consistent. You brought up the topic of starvation.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip -4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

No, writers and artists had state guilds in which they worked and were paid by the state for their work. Stop this baseless fear mongering

Id rather work in a mine than to keep slacking and excepting free food.

Whats exactly the problem in this model?

Pre soviet russia famines: 1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1891%E2%80%931892 2. Famines mentioned in this article like 1897, early 1900s and 1921-22 famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union

I said no one was starving on daily basis. I expect people to understand that

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I fucking love when westerners tell me that my own experiences I lived through are fake. Wtf man, I had a relative who couldn't work as journalists because they took part in the 1956 revolution, and he had to work as swineherd his whole life later. He died some years ago.

The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

That's just one famine. I wouldn't count the 1921-22 famine to any system as that's was because of the civil war, not from the mismanagement.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

my relative tried sabotage and then had to do actual labor

meanwhile what happens under capitalism if your reporting threatens the system:

https://www.lemkininstitute.com/single-post/how-the-eu-is-using-anti-russia-sanctions-to-criminalise-journalism

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago

"My experience" "My relative" So it wasn't your experience at all, just a story you heard

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 0 points 20 hours ago

I am not a westerner lol.

Multiple famines are listed in 2nd link. Death via starvation often occurred without famine too.

I have one friend whose geandparents say they lived happy lives in USSR and after it dissolved many low level workers lost their jobs or died