With Discord announcing age verification globally, people are searching for alternatives. But a Discord alternative on the open social web might just look structurally quite different.

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Barring the single account, I want them entirely disconnected though. Discord had not suffered in growth because of a lack of interaction.

Centralization is irrelevant for what users want outside of a niche. The average user doesn't care.

And I should note I'm not against competitors and open source but they all need to realize that the thing that matters to users isn't the underlying architecture or that they're foss. It's the features, community, and experiences they deliver.

Lemmys a good example. From the outset having to 'choose' a server is already an anti-pattern on seamless user experience.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why? You could always self-host a federated Discord alternative and not federate it with anywhere else if you wanted it like that. You can use it like that and others can utilise its federation functions. Why is Federation presumably desirable for you when it comes to Lemmy but not Discord?

Federation is necessary here for long-term resistance to corporate greed and decline. It isn't a selling point specifically for the individual user experience here.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Snuck in an edit that touches some or your points. I'm not on Lemmy because of federation, that's incidental. I'm here because it's another option to explore. But I still use reddit, too, because the community is there.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

But I still use reddit, too, because the community is there.

federation is important not because it can be used as some kind of buzzword, but because without it, even here we would be much fewer. there would be more very small communities, which can't interact, and overall with strictly distinct lemmy instances the whole user number would be much lower because of things people complain about a lot even this way, that there's not enough content

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