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have you? vietnam was backed by soviet union and china when these states were at peak performance, and north vietnamese government was genuinely popular. iran today is not it, who's gonna stand up for them, fucking north korea? mullah's regime doesn't seem to be popular either https://gamaan.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/GAMAAN-Iran-Religion-Survey-2020-English.pdf also iranian air defences were already shown to be unable of touching american aircraft last year, and nobody's talking about ground invasion
What did the American military do during Vietnam?
right, let's see... they propped up unpopular (some 70% iranians oppose islamic republic rule, source), authoritarian, religious minority rule (only 32% iranians reported to be shia in 2020 survey, so before 2022 protests, it might be even less today), that was in a constant state of crisis and when president nho dinh diem got couped and killed, people danced on the streets (iranians burned down mosques and statue of soleimani during january protests). yeah, maybe iran is like vietnam after all, to be more specific like south vietnam during buddhist crisis
i don't think that regular iranian population, that protested every year in almost decade and these protests were all met with crackdowns, mostly deadly, would like to see islamic republic rule to continue. neither i have heard anything about ground invasion, so all you've got out there is couple of pilots (officers) in the air and some more on ships
Ill just tell you. During Vietnam, soldiers would frequently disappear orders. They would sabotage their own equipment and even go so far as to "frag" their brass. THAT is what I was asking you to get to
and i told you before that it's officers (pilots are generally officers) that will be doing aerial bombing, and because large force on ground is prerequisite for situations you're describing, it's not going to happen
We can only speculate. All it takes it for one mechanic to sabotage a plane.
The US and Israel will be able to bomb them with impunity. At most Iran will be able to hit a few targets that make it through missile defense. Maybe an airplane or two if they get lucky, a navy ship maybe, a target in Israel. But that's the extent of it, the west can bomb them, it changes nothing and only further cements their leaders in power.
Whomever is telling you the country is about to overthrow their government while still functionally at war with Israel and the US is playing you, they are rallying around the flag, and all you are doing is getting their people killed.
we'll see in a month tops
I hope you are wrong and we won't see, but I fear we will find out. Even if they kill the leaders, the ayatollah will be Israel's main target, and their revolutionary guard, it's not like that will usher in the shah to come in and relaunch his corrupt western puppet regime to sell out the country's oil while their secret service ruthlessly suppresses dissent and tortures and murders people, and the rich leave the majority in desperate poverty, without running water and dirt floors, as was the case with the Shah.
This is not the way to create regime change, and it's not meant to, this is for Israel to have forever war so their leaders don't have to call elections and answer for their failure as law and order candidates to keep the country safe, not even from their own ghetto they had unlimited resources to hem in and abuse. They were too busy cancelling the judiciary to keep their country safe.
Israel has dirt on the president, the billionaires, and a critical mass of other swells and lawmakers. Not just dirt, videos of them fucking children and assorted perversions, which is not even counting whatever else they've accumulated. They have absolute control over the US right now as beset as they are with epstein's revelations and the ham handed cover up of it.
They are using it, we will have forever war for the domestic politics of our supposed vassal state that now controls us, unless we can break the hold of the epstein blackmail by making it all public.
The comment you're replying to is directed at the American military personnel. Famously, American soldiers shot and killed their commanding officers on numerous occasions during the Vietnam war, so what they're advocating for is mutiny by execution, and effectively martyrdom.
except irgc and friends, nobody's sticking out their neck for theocracy and ayatollah, definitely not majority of iranian population (survey from 2024, and this is before irgc did 4 srebrenicas), and i'm not even sure about allegiances of regular military (artesh, not irgc. i heard that irgc disarmed artesh just before january crackdown, not very sure about it). let alone handful of pilots and marine officers that would conduct bombardment