TLDR: Hank Green independently discovers "Techno-Feudalism" and says he has not heard anyone else talking about this. Get Yanis Varoufakis on the phone with this liberal NOW!

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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Socialism can only be democratic (not in the liberal sense) you can't have a self-serving clique at the top or you just get overthrown super easily

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Socialism just means there is social ownership of the means of production and "oligarch is a rich person who runs shit" is post soviet collapse propaganda (as a form of orientalism, their evil oligarchs, our beneficent plutocrats)

If you had a vanguard party successfully seize the MoP and establish a communist state but then understandably manage things within the context of that party and its membership rather than an open electoral system that could and would immediately be abused by foreign and domestic reactionaries that would literally be an oligarchy, and also a good decision

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's what I meant by "not in the liberal sense" A vanguard party that serves the people is fundamentally democratic, and if a vanguard party doesn't serve the people they get overthrown by reactionaries because the people won't support them

I know it's semantics and shit but usually "oligarchy" is understood as a ruling class that doesn't deserve to be here and serves its own interets. A better term would be "technocratic" for what you described, and still this would remain democratic if the Party doesn't fall into revisionism

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A better term would be "technocratic" for what you described,

A technocratic oligarchy

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well I tend to prefer using words in their modern context rather than strictly referring to etymology but that's a valid approach too, so yeah you could say that sans-shrug

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can keep being wrong if you want to not understand the root olig- but that's on you i guess, I tried. Monarchy is when one dude, triarchy is when three, oligarchy is when the guy is rich and slavic, you got it. An oligomer is when the molecular units come from the kremlin. I too prefer to have language and the meaning of words dictated by the Atlantic council