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This is Hasan’s unironic position
he recently said he'll vote third party if newsom is the nominee, wouldn't be shocked if he votes PSL next time
That's so funny, given his arguments against third parties two weeks ago
https://youtu.be/ViHEXUX0FT8?t=6474
That clip is so frustrating
People join a third party when socialists organize for a third party, we don't have to wait for a magical moment where a prominent democratic socialist decides to break with the democrats. It is undialectical reasoning. Every rally brings more people into the movement, you can see it in the streets
Yeah, he always screams that there is no movement, but then his answer is to not try to help people start one (also there is one, or really several, they are just small)
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Yeah, Blue MAGA types are pissed at him because just two days ago he said he would vote 3rd party if it was Newsom on the ticket.
Ah cool don’t keep up with streamer drama but last I heard from him he was pressuring people to vote Kopmala if they were in a swing state. Glad to see he has evolved, but the real test is when the election draws near if he holds or goes back to lesser evilism
IDK where you heard that because he never endorsed her and spoke out against her the entire election. He still gets shit for not endorsing her to this day (because a twitch streamer endorsement surely would've turned the tide)
He did admit months after the election that he did in fact vote for KKKopmala, which I certainly disagree with, but he never pressured anyone to vote for her even in a swing state. His only position in 2024 was an anti-endorsement of Trump
It's not my argument but I do accept the argument that a Harris admin would have been marginally better.
The point isn't that Harris's policies are identical to Trump's, but that this endless capitulation to 95% Hitler versus 100% Hitler will inevitably turn into capitulation to 100% Hitler against 105% Hitler and 195% Hitler against 200% Hitler, and that a left opposition that is willing to withhold its support is necessary in order to stop this spiral into fascism by either forcing the "left" candidate to be more progressive or by building a third party. Resources spent on campaigning for cops and making them look more popular by obeying them (whatever you claim to feel in your heart) are ultimately just contributing to the spiral even if in a portion of elections (probably no more than half), you get 5% lower Hitler. It is counterproductive to ending elections of X% Hitler vs Y% Hitler.
Yeah I agree on all points. At the same time I doubt the Harris admin would have given ice a blank check and started occupying American cities in year 1. I am just stating I'm sympathetic to the argument of casting blue votes in swing states no matter the candidate.
Not my personal opinion but especially if someone is feeling targeted directly, I'm sympathetic.
I agree, but she would be sure to facilitate the next Republican doing that by playing loudly into other xenophobic policies like the concentration camps, border wall, etc. and normalizing such an attitude to her constituents. She would pave the way to people doing just as bad and then doing worse, while Dems claim to be morally superior because they are a few steps behind while walking just as readily down the path to Hell.
I'm sympathetic to people who fall for this bullshit in the sense that I'm sympathetic to an abuse victim whose perspective was distorted, because that's literally what the Dems are. The Dems literally argue "We will hurt you and people you care about, but so with the GOP, so you not being hurt is off the table. Supporting us hurting you is reducing harm to you and if you don't support us, aren't you really the person hurting people?" There are no words for how disgusting it is.
I agree completely. I see this discussion similar to: do you flee or stay and prepare? There's nothing I can say to someone who's thought through either position.
I think that sympathizing with how someone feels -- like sympathizing with an abuse victim who falsely believes that they need their abuser -- does not require validating their conclusion as actually true, and we should seek to change their minds, we should have things we can say, even if we need to be careful and respectful and also the answer changes in different contexts (with the stay/go example, where there often is a right answer but it depends a lot on the person's circumstances, and taking the position that there is a right answer is not the same as trying to force them to follow that answer).
I apologize for the run-on sentence.
Nah it would have condoned genocide. It's good that the Democrats lost, and continue to lose, until they course correct. And if they never do, then they should be destroyed as a party to make way for something better
While I agree, I'm not in danger of getting sent to cecot (immediately).
You are also not a Palestinian, who have called to boycott support of all genocidal Zionist parties
Without solidarity we are nothing. The moment we start prioritizing certain people over others we are lost
I have no idea why you're saying this to me?