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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 78 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Giving them the ability to close their own doors just screams "kid's arm smashed in automatic car door failure".

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I used to have a Tesla (traded it in). In the app you could open, but not close, the windows. It could be inconvenient at times but I assume the reasoning was similar.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s weird. Most of the cars I have had can open and close the windows from the fob. (Usually double press then hold unlock or lock, though one car I had [Accord] required the key in the door for the windows to go up.)

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Right - I think the difference is that, when using a fob, you're likely within line of sight or at least nearby your car and so presumably could observe or otherwise check for car occupants, but so long as your car and phone both have reception you can use the app from anywhere without any clue who might be in or around the car.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New cars have automatic window up functions but strictly dont apply enough pressure to choke a child

[–] flynnguy@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Mine goes up automatically and if it encounters resistance, it goes back down again. I guess this is too hard for Tesla.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Still hurts like hell though... from someone who once accidentally rolled up the window BEFORE pulling my head in. :-D

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IIRC people were testing cybertrucks for some auto-closing functionality, and if they encountered resistance, they would back off... Then try harder, slicing through hotdogs

[–] evulhotdog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I saw carrots being sheared like nothing from the cybertruck.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Behold the miracle of the slipping clutch, millenials. See It working without being digital and all without an app by the ancient secrets of mechanics!

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perfect argument that they are too immature to be on the road.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, are you saying children are too immature to be passengers in cars?

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't get what you are saying. My kids' door locks aren't even on. You know what they can manage? Closing the door.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You said

Perfect argument that they are too immature to be on the road.

In response to a comment saying doors may not automatically close on self driving cars to protect children. It seems like you're saying children are too immature to be on the road.

No one thinks children are incapable of closing doors, people think self closing doors may cut off children's fingers.

That isn't how the reply came off.

And that line of inquiry is irrelevant. If safe, self closing doors are a mechanical marvel that stumps the engineering teams of the self-driving car engineers then they fundamentally aren't up to the job.

This is a very small bar compared to giant leaps needed to have cars be autonomous.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just make the motor not slam the door but close it slowly with not enough force to harm someone and put like two sensors + 1 backup in there

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Call me a cynical luddite but somehow I don't trust today's autonomous car technology to be reliable and fool-proof enough for that mechanism not to fail catastrophically and randomly because it's raining or someone on the other side of the street made a sudden movement or Mercury is in retrograde or the company's stock market just dropped 592 points because investors are furious after realising they wasted money on a backup or it's Tuesday.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know we already have autonomous doors for houses. I feel like theres a lot more trust involved having a 2 ton vehicle move significant speeds on the road than having it close a door

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I do not know that. I'd also assume the technology to close a door on a car to work very differently from that on a house because a door on a house that may not be closed properly is far less dangerous than one on a car. Also, yes, I don't trust that 2 ton vehicle either if it claims to be autonomous.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But they built in a saw blade killswitch if a finger is detected a good decade ago or more. Surely they can apply such technology to cars.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The sawstop causes mechanical damage that must be repaired if activated. It's more like an airbag than an e-stop.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It hasn't yet been used without people around who can stop the process if it goes wrong.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet things like robovaccums have. The sawblade has to detect the right material. Meanwhile Robot vaccums just have to detect anything in its path to then stop. And it has a bumper. And ring cameras can detect motion. As well as dashboard cameras. Dont see why any of this technology cannot be used in car doors just to detect anything in it’s path.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not saying it's forever impossible, I'm saying I currently don't trust these technologies to operate autonomously in a context where lives are at potential risk and they'll need to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they can do so reliably before I start trusting.