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It often feels like EV fires make major headlines while ICE vehicle fires go under reported despite being order of magnitude more likely and common. Nice to see an ICE vehicle fire actually making media headlines for a change.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The point was that there are relatively more deaths due to battery fires than gas fires, despite battery fires are rare, and part of the reason is that we have heard about them have been these stupid door handles. And because you need to get out quicker.

Previous to electric cars, I had never heard about anyone being caught in a car and die because it caught on fire.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

The point was that there are relatively more deaths due to battery fires than gas fires

I strongly doubt that this is true. I have never seen any such numbers and EV fires are so rare that I consider any such statement without the numbers to back it up to be baseless fearmongering. That's not to say that I can't be convinced otherwise, but please, give me some sources to back that up.

Previous to electric cars, I had never heard about anyone being caught in a car and die because it caught on fire.

Because EVs were new and had a novelty aspect to them (and a lobby against them) and because fires in ICEs are so common they're usually not reported.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You were right to doubt that it’s true, because it very much isn’t.

Examining electric car accident statistics reveals that occupants of electric vehicles are safer than occupants of gasoline-powered cars or trucks. For example, you are 40% less likely to be injured while using an EV than while driving or riding in a traditional internal combustion engine vehicle.

This lower risk of injury also includes the risk of a vehicle catching fire. Internal combustion engine vehicles are approximately 50 times more likely to catch fire in an accident compared to EVs — there has been one Tesla fire for every 210 million vehicle miles traveled, while an internal combustion engine vehicle catches fire once every 19 million vehicle miles traveled.

- https://seriousaccidents.com/blog/electric-car-accident-statistics-facts-are-accidents-more-likely-in-evs/

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I strongly doubt that this is true.

Maybe there aren't, but relative to we heard about this already early on with Tesla, when there were way way less than 1% of cars on the road that were electric, and ALL electric cars were new, I think there actually was a higher frequency of this problem with EV vars. BUT and that's a huge but, batteries have improved a lot since Tesla model S was introduced. So it may not be true anymore.

without the numbers to back it up

This has almost seemed like a cover up to me, we've heard about a multitude of problems with especially Tesla, but it has been very difficult to find for instance accident statistics.
A couple of years back however some were released that showed that Tesla indeed is the most accident prone brand on the road in USA.
Here in Denmark we have seen completely unheard of failure rates at mandatory safety checks for Tesla model 3 last year with 35% failure rate! That in itself is insane, but this year the 2021 model Y had a failure rate of 45% 😱 The average i 8% and that includes cars of all ages, where the 2021 model Y had this failure rate at their first check that is when the car is 4 years old.

It's insanely annoying IMO that these kinds of data aren't always publicly available.
PS I bough a VW ID.4 and for that model the failure rate at the first mandatory safety check is less than 2%!!
Not buying a Tesla is a no brainer IMO, even the cheapest Chinese cars have way better record at these safety checks. And it's a similar picture for Germany, Netherlands and Sweden, so it's not just Denmark.

Incidentally a Tesla model Y cost about twice as much as mine in insurance! Which is also somewhat telling, although the companies again don't reveal the stats behind that difference in price.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think there actually was a higher frequency of this problem with EV vars.

No. I stand by my point there... As far as I know, there has never been any data that pointed in the direction of EVs being anything but a much lower fire hazard than ICEs. If you had other numbers I'd gladly accept those but it seems you don't do maybe you should just consider that your impression is wrong.

Here in Denmark we have seen completely unheard of failure rates at mandatory safety checks for Tesla model 3

Failure rate for mandatory tests refers to a lot of things, most of which aren't immediate hazards and all of which don't refer to the high voltage battery fire probabilities. It's a terrible sign that tesla fails these, but this has nothing to do with batteries spontaneously igniting.

This has almost seemed like a cover up to me

Dude... It's just data that hasn't been prepared in a way you'd like it. That doesn't mean there's a conspiracy going on.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

much lower fire hazard than ICEs.

Oh for fucks sake, an ice car burning a couple of cables because of overheating in the engine compartment is not comparative to an EV battery catching fire.
You are comparing apples and oranges.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 1 minute ago

Luckily, https://lemmy.ca/comment/21667925 above already looked it up and lo and behold, you're much safer in an electric vehicle.