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Here's the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

There is a crowd of people who will call you a zionist for anything. Yesterday someone reposted a neo Nazi and used Nazi language in their post title. Me calling them on it? Makes me a zionist, obviously.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I've had the same happen. It's very disheartening to see so many anti-zionists unknowingly repeat Nazi slogans and talking points. You point it out, you mention that 'hey, probably not a wise idea to use zio- since it's a term coined by David Duke'

and they call you the nazi. like bruh, i aint the one quoting the KKK. that's why I call them antisemitic, since if a neo-nazi was using the same arguments and excuses, I certainly wouldn't buy it.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You have defended Israel in threads before and labeling everything as antisemitism is a Mossad talking point.

To be fair, I don't agree with dbzero defederating though. Every removed comment was grossly insulting. Hard to know without more context, since we don't have the comments they were replying to but I doubt they were deserving of the replies.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Can you give any examples? My opinions on different topics actively changes, I'm not opposed to change or considering that I may be wrong or ignorant.

I don't label everything as antisemitic, only examples that are collective or phrases and theories that neo-nazis and other antisemites historically used, such as triple parentheses or the zio-pejorative. The latter is particularly common on Lemmy.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's in the same vein as "Israel has a right to defend itself". It looks okay on the surface but ignores decades of context and the fact that Israel fostered Hamas and let the attack happen. It basically implies Palestine was asking for it.

The choice of vocab is telling as well just like how Israel isn't "defending itself" but simply killing civilians. If you rephrase is more truthfully, as in "Would Israel be committing Genocide if the 7th of October attack hadn't happened?", the answer is it doesn't matter. No reason ever justifies exterminating people.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know the context in which IndustryStandard is replying. That was 5 months ago; my views on Israel have dramatically changed since then.

Gaza wouldn't be in the state it is now if the 7th of October massacres never occurred, if Hamas, which Israel fostered, never carried out the attacks. It'd still be greatly oppressed, but not a smoking rubble with a starving populace. The reason absolutely does matter since that's the excuse Israel uses to carry out their genocide, 'Oh, those civilians were totally just collateral! It's war! This happens despite us having the most sophisticated intelligence agency in the world'

Pointing out that Israel used the massacres as a proxy to carry out their extreme violence isn't defending Israel.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

"Hamas started it" is never a good look. It ignore a lot of context which is precisely what the person meant when saying Israel has always been an obstacle to peace.

More importantly, it's fixating on the wrong thing. The massacre x 10 000 that is genocide kind of overshadows the rest of it. Using who "started" it as an argument just comes off as trying to justify it.

Like there's a mountain of corps and half of them are children.

Here's the comment link: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20723627

It's really just that. Someone accused you of taking Israel's side and you defended yourself by saying "Hamas did it first".

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

also im curious, can you link that comment?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Once outed as a repost of a neo nazi's post, OP deleted the post, and also the "zionist" accusation was in a dm, so unfortunately not