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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

BS.. destroying the state of israel doesnt mean the people are destroyed. Running interference for genocide are you? Thats pretty gross.

[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure buddy, I'm with the IDF, explicitly calling what Israel does a genocide. We can argue semantics, but I think you'll find that at least some people saying shit like 'Israel must be destroyed' actually mean this as a call for violence against Israelis.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it’s meant as a call to action for removing the state of Israel.

[–] monkeyFromTheLake@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How so you remove the state of Israel? What do you mean by that? It's politicians? It's institutions? It's territory? I am actually curious.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

You give control of the land back to the Palestinians.

Same as has been done with any other colonial nation that’s land was given back to the people living there such as happened with Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

nation that’s land

nation whose land, right?

[–] monkeyFromTheLake@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean with giving control back to Palestinians? Should they take over the government of Israel and unify it with their current territory/government? What would happen with Israelis? You think those people will all of a sudden get along?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who gives a fuck what happens to the Israelis.

Do you also care for the plight of the Nazis who settled into the lands they genocided, after the war ended?

[–] monkeyFromTheLake@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that there is any sense in what people here are saying. You all know that what you are proposing won't stop the killing on either side. I guess you do this out of anger and I can understand that. But this won't solve anything.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Israel no longer existing would stop the killing by Israel.

It’s not a stance I think can be realistically achieved while western states back Israel and their genocide.

It’s the stance I wish to see happen. I am powerless but that doesn’t mean I can’t want an ideal outcome.

[–] monkeyFromTheLake@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this is your ideal outcome you are no better then the worst Israelis are

[–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Self defense is objectively better than aggressive genocide.

[–] monkeyFromTheLake@programming.dev 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Eradicating another nation is not selfe defense it is literally the definition of genocide.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

That is literally not the definition of genocide. Eradicating nations is the goal of every anarchist.

Genocide is eradicating peoples, of which no one is calling for here. You are the only one even hinting at that topic.

You said Israel no longer existing would stop the killing from Israels Side. Now I do not see Israelis willingly giving up their country and leave. Eradicating the nation in the sense of nation state seems unlikely but even if this was done I don't think that it would get quieter in the region. If anything I would expect things to get worse. So judging from that I think that what you are proposing is a pipe dream but maybe I am not seeing what you mean exactly. Would you care to elaborate. Probably provide an actual plan. As a small disclaimer, I am fairly new to the fedivers and I did not know that this instance is tending to the ideas of anarchy. Also I am not very knowledged in anarchy, what is really ment by that (to me it means something similar to rulelessness).

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And then have the Jews as the oppressed people? No thanks. A two-state-solution is the only reasonable one.

A group without representation will always be an oppressed group.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

A one state solution with israelis and palestinians having the same rights is the only solution

[–] misk@piefed.social -1 points 2 days ago

You don’t even have to do that. Make Palestinians actual citizens with voting rights, let democracy run it’s course. It would end with dissolution of Israel as it is now and nobody can say they weren’t given the voice.