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I'm not saying there are no ascetic elements in Buddhism, I'm saying it's not central to Buddhist soteriology, i.e. nibbana / nirvana is a realization that cannot be reached through asceticism, and this is a fundamental teaching of the Buddha (and a major distinction between Buddhism and Hinduism).
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According Tveravada teaching nirvana/nibbana could be reachable monks only
It's undeniable that within Buddhism, and Theravada Buddhism in particular, that monastic life is considered an aid to the path towards awakening, but it is false that Theravada teaches that nibbana can only be reached by monks, as Theravada scriptures mention several lay followers who were arahants.
some citations are provided here:
https://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php/Lay_arahant
Again your mistake is to assume asceticism is necessary to realize nibbana, instead it is more that the monk's lives promote simple living in a way that is meant to help facilitate the path to realizing nibbana - but it is far from necessary, and it is not the asceticism itself that facilitates that - again, Buddhism famously rejects asceticism in favor of the Middle Path. I suggest you read more about Buddhism, maybe try What the Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula.
The practices the bhikkhu follow are meant to increase the odds of realizing nibbana happening, but according to Buddhist scripture, nibbana was also realized by lay followers who were not monks and who did not live ascetic lives.
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I believe modern Christianity has discredited itself and my attention more and more is focusing on Neo-paganism as well as Hinduism, Buddhism and other Oriental religion