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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You're making a lot of fucking assumptions about me, including what I have or haven't done, what I do or don't support, what opinions I hold, and even what country I'm from. It's all so you can set up some convenient strawman arguments that you can shoot down, by putting words in my mouth and claiming I said things that I didn't say. So I'm not going to take you seriously.

The UN has stated that Israel should unconditionally end the occupation. Your rhetoric is that it is too complex

I said I support the UN's position, but that there's a difference between stating what should be done and actually implementing it. If it wasn't complex, the problem would already be solved. I never said we should do nothing and keep selling weapons to israel. Strawman.

Or are you one of those racists who think most Palestinians support genociding Israelis?

I said Hamas supports genociding israelis, and I also said Hamas holds de facto power in Gaza. Both of which are true statements. I've also said that I can discern between Hamas and Palestinians, which you apparently can't, so by your own logic you're the one who's racist and you're making accusations in a mirror.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Everybody history is public. There is no assumptions. All you do is to pretend to oppose occupation while only attacking anti occupation people.

I said I support the UN’s position, but that there’s a difference between stating what should be done and actually implementing it. If it wasn’t complex, the problem would already be solved. I never said we should do nothing and keep selling weapons to israel. Strawman.

Again I said the solution is complex but logical . You couldn't give a single valid argument besides racism and antisemitism.

The UN position is unconditional ending of the occupation.

I said Hamas supports geocoding Israelis, and I also said Hamas holds de facto power in Gaza. Both of which are true statements. I’ve also said that I can discern between Hamas and Palestinians, which you apparently can’t, so by your own logic you’re the one who’s racist and you’re making accusations in a mirror.

I am the one who say that Palestinians and Israelis can live together at some point while I acknowledge it will take time and won't be easy. You are the one who said they can't live together so the racist and antisemite is you .

Can you answers those questions ?

Do you agree that the occupiers and occupied do not hold the same level of responsibility?

Do you support Palestinians right to return to israel if they want to in case it is the two state solution is the one they succeed?

Do you support Palestinians right to all the recognized Palestinians areas? Which is all Gaza, all the west bank and all east Jerusalem?

Does an independent Palestinian state has the right to an army to defend itself?

Did you vote for people who support unconditional end of settler colonialism done by Israel, support bans of all arms on Israel and sanctions on the state of Israel itself not just one or two ministers and 1 or 2 settler terrorists?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

All you're doing is moving goalposts, twisting the things I've said, and pretending you're the one being rational. Calling me racist and anti-semitic isn't going to change the complexity of the situation, and trying to force your overly simplistic solutions is only going to complicate things further.

There's no point answering any questions you ask if you're only going to take everything I say in the most uncharitable light because you're allergic to nuance. I'm done with you.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You avoid those questions because you are a hypocrite claiming to be against genocide and occupation while denying every single palestinian right