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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago (12 children)

It’s both. Don’t pretend Russia is harmless.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only catch is, one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads and the other gets a standing ovation in the US Capital.

Like, you can't talk to me about influence peddling and not talk about J-Street. Let me know when Washington DC has an R-Street and we can talk about their relative influence.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Why is the same guy in that picture twice?

/yes, I know

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads

Allegedly. Its not clear to me Trump sees either of these people as opponents. Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals, and vice versus. They might not be coordinating but the outcomes might as well be.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals

Where do you get this stuff?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

By putting a mediocre level of effort into paying attention into world events and world politics, and then analyzing those events.

Its miraculous what putting in even a basic level of effort does. I highly recommend.

Here's a visual example that shows how Israel thinks of itself, displaying what I'm talking about (another lemming posted this earlier in the thread, cant for the life of me remember whom):

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Here’s a visual example

Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals

:-/

Oh no! What could this mean?!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That Putin doesn't like being so short. Or you know, he's really unhappy with not being able to manipulate Obama. Probably short as well.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Reading this, it's very easy to understand how Trump won.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I wasn't impressed with Obama, but I did vote against Trump every time. The reason that Trump won is because Americans are terrible at spotting propaganda, are racist, worship the rich, can't tell the difference between tv and reality, and what an instant gratification economy and Trump promised that. They would rather go along with the lie they want to heard rather than the truth they don't want to hear.

Putin and many other people saw they could use Trump to further their ends. That also includes Israel and the billionaire class. A lot of money got pumped into marketing Trump. Putin's been backing Trump since his bankruptcy problems and he was just a way to launder money, but when Trump was slighted by a Black man and decided to run for office, Putin saw an opportunity to divide America. When Trump won, he saw an opportunity to take Ukraine.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Putin and many other people saw they could use Trump to further their ends.

Trump's never been shy about putting himself up for sale. That's the reason Hillary backed him for the GOP primary in '15. She thought he'd be easy to manipulate, then push aside when she was done with him.

Possible that Putin made the same mistake, only to discover the EU could outbid him. Either way, Trump's family has grown fat playing Western Capitalists against Eastern Nationalists.

Putin’s been backing Trump since his bankruptcy problems

Trump's been working the US bankruptcy courts to his favor since the 1970s. And Trump's been trafficking sex workers out of the Eastern Block for his friends in Manhattan since the 1980s.

At every step, liberals turned a blind eye or helped him out.

Until they reaped what they'd sown.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The elites turned a blind eye. The courts saw him as too costly to prosecute fully. But Putin was still a part of this and it's obvious how he benefited. I don't know why you're singling out "liberals".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The elites turned a blind eye.

They were enthusiastic accomplices.

The courts saw him as too costly to prosecute fully.

So they prosecuted the most broke and vulnerable, instead.

Putin was still a part of this

As a scapegoat, a boogeyman, and a useful idiot who could justify another generation of Western military industrial economic looting.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I think Ukrainas might have an opinion to Putin being called a scapegoat.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bruh we're literally sending billions annually to Israel so they can then turn it around and bribe our politicians to get more.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 24 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Yeah, Israel's playing on easy mode. Meanwhile Russia's got sanctions, their invasion target has enough of an army to fight back, and they still manage to get candidates elected in the US.

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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Russia isn't "harmless" if we're having a conversation about capitalist incentives and imperialist interest and how they result in global conflicts were the working class suffer the consequences.

But if you hear mainstream media start to cry "but Russia" you should see that as a HUGE red flag.

There is no comparing "Russian Influence" to the extension of US imperialism that is the Israeli colonial project. That's ridiculous.

I think the only silly thing we do is pretend that Israel is "controlling America". No, Israel does the the absolute worst things in the interest of American Imperialism; that even the American oligarchs want to distance themselves from.

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