I haven't listened to the TrueAnon episode in question but between this, the TrueAnon twitter profile having ace/aro in its profile as an apparent joke, and the "be normal" mantra, the pod gives me definite social conservative vibes.

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

if a left space isn't predominantly.... a large plurality of queer+trans users it will just inevitably backslide this way

Agreed. Our LGBT comrades are on the knife's edge of Western politics, and always have been. There's a reason the Nazis burned our books at the same time they started persecuting Jews in 1933.

[and] isn't predominantly ML

Hey now. No friendly fire. I'll go to the mat for my anarchist comrades any day of the week. They do good work, and we can hash out our differences once we fill the pit up with capitalists. barbara-pit

[–] axont@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I would say that a left space doesn't need to specifically be ML or whatever, but it does need to be able to function without endless meaningless arguments about China and the USSR. If more than even 1% of a left space is dedicated to relitigating socialist movements from a century ago, then the plot has been lost. Or if people are quoting Adrian Zenz, or throwing around the word tankie, or bringing up Tiananmen square over and over.

There's probably good discussion about those topics that can be productive, but none of it is very relevant to leftist movements in the west among English speaking people. If a leftist space can't get over that, then it's gonna fall apart

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would say that a left space doesn't need to specifically be ML or whatever, but it does need to be able to function without endless meaningless arguments about China and the USSR.

Your real world experience obviously may vary, but I've yet to meet an anarchist in person who gives much of a shit about that. They're too busy giving people food, and making cops' days a little bit harder.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

My experience lines up with yours. No one in real life cares.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agree with your last paragraph but I'm curious, are there any online spaces that are predominantly anarchist and non-sectarian like Hexbear? I know on Lemmy there's anarchist.nexus and db0 which federate with us and are more or less chill, but they're not explicitly in favor of left unity either AFAIK.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Beats me. I just don't want to exclude my anarchist comrades, who in real life are extremely chill and actively engage in praxis, instead of jacking themselves off over the Second International or whatever the fuck.