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Israel is a genocidal fascist ethnostate and it should be dissolved and their government arrested, tried for crimes against humanity, and executed. This is the absolute bear minimum any human should accept. We should not tolerate these actions.
Sounds wild to claim that the side, a secular democracy that has regular elections, and guarantees equal rights to all its citizens, who are made up of multiple ethnic groups, is a "fascist ethnostate", while the other side is an ethnically homogenous one party state run by a government who's founding charter invokes nazi-era antisemitic conspiracy theories.
Ah yes, "wild" to claim that the country ran by fascists, actively undertaking a genocide to ethnically cleanse arabs and muslims from their holy land is a fascist ethnostate. Also, it is a well known fact that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens. Their politicians literally call out for purges. Dunno if you're in denial, just not aware due to the propaganda (totally not your fault if so) or if you're a zionist spreading lies and misinformation.
So what are Israeli Arab citizens not allowed to do that Jewish ones are? Given that its a "well known fact" they're second class citizens?
I'll give you that Smotrich and Ben Gvir are fascists if that's who you're referring to but it's hardly accurate to claim they "run the country", nor are their views representative of the average Israeli given they get a pretty small percentage of the vote.
Also- nothing I said was a lie or misinformation as far as I'm aware but feel free to point out where you disagree.
Can you admit that Israel is conducting a genocide?
I'd prefer if you can address what I've already said and answer my question first? Then we can change the subject and talk about that.
You said I'm either a liar or misinformed and I'm still waiting to hear why you think that too.
Hahah yeah, no, fuck off, that's the bare minimum to interact with me, I'm not gonna waste my time with some genocide denier. Bye.
Yeah sounds more like you're the one who's misinformed mate and that's why you're lashing out and calling me names. Take care. X
Wasn't the USA a democracy when they was murdering Vietnameses, Afghans and Iraqis? Netanyahu said that Gazans are Amalek which mean Israelis should murder all Palestinians including infants. The war criminal Australia is hosting also said there is no innocent Palestinians
Look at that amazing democracy Israel is and how they love protecting jews
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qNFcgpx4YF0
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Yq6K7fmjVx0
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cb0d1fz2rC0
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel
https://www.blackagendareport.com/banning-palestinian-ngos-how-israel-tries-silence-human-rights-defenders
They also bulldozered a cemetery hosting allies soldiers who died and contributed to saving Jews from the holocaust
What do you think should happen to Hamas?
Do you mind telling the audience what your plan entails for all the Israeli civilians living in Israel, many of whom don't approve of their government or its actions?
Israel has fair elections they chose genocidal prime ministers for 78 years
Israel ~~does~~ did not have fair elections. The ultra-orthodox political elite were extremely privileged in Israel's elections. Something like 15% of the population was responsible for an 80% share-by-weight of the electoral outcome.
This has recently changed, so it's expected that Israel's next election (this year) will be more fair, and it's likely that the ultra-orthodox faction will lose power. However, they know this quite well and are likely to try to use the war in some way to maintain their hold on power. Time will tell.
If it is not rigged it is fair. Nice deflection from the fact that israelis keep voting for genocidal and pro colonization prime ministers. And since there is a lot of bad actors in lemmy I have to say the obvious, this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians
It is rigged though. You're the one deflecting.
That's literally what "From the river to the sea means." If you would just say that, we would be in agreement. But no, you deflect and accuse me of being a zionist because I say "ethnic cleansing is wrong no matter what side is doing it, and simply changing the hands of power between two genocidal organizations is not a viable solution."
It is like saying that usa elections are rigged and not fair because lobbies and oligargh. Anyway Netenyahu is not an ultraorthodox and israel voted for that genocidal monster, israeli president is not either and said there is no innocent Gazans yet your trashy racist country still host him and you prefer to portray anti occupstion protesters as antisemite and pro genoice instead of condemning that visit
I'm not even Australian, so I don't know why you're blaming me for what their government is doing. All I did was provide context for the slogan in question on the OP article. That doesn't mean I support Israel.
This inane campism where "any criticism of one side implies support for the other" is so worn-out. Do better.
So stop defending Australians hypocrisy about Palestine and condemn the country bringing a war criminals to the country. All you did was to provide propaganda talking points .
I have problem with your lies and hypocristy
Not even a little bit. All I did was provide historical context for the meaning of the slogan. It's entirely possible to criticize Israel's actions and western/anglophone governments' support without perpetuating phrases that connote ethnic cleansing.
If you can't take this seriously, then neither will I...
The context is that the slogan means different thing to different people but you want to make anti genocide people bad and justify more autoritarian laws to be added
. You think you are smart with your fake neutrality.
You think you're smart with your making up things I didn't say.
If they just want to be anti-genocide, they should find a slogan that doesn't advocate for ethnic cleansing. And if they don't know the meaning of the slogan then they should be informed. That's all I did, and you won't stop being butthurt about it. Goodbye.
I didn't make up anything . I simply used basic deductive logic.
If you want to prove you are antigenocide answers the questions I asked in the other comment.
They never advocated for ethenic cleansing. You are the one who advocate for it since you prefer the solution where ethenic cleansing will happen. 700k settlers will be removed from the west bank and two millions arabs from Israel because they do not want any chance of arabs isralis one day overgrow the jewish israelis in israel
They would become citizens of the state formed after the dissolution of Israel with the same, full rights and protections, as Palestinians. There would no doubt need to be a whole denazification campaign that might take many years, as well as a very comprehensive period of truth and reconciliation.
So you're in favor of a one-state solution?
Who do you think will govern that state?
Israelis and palestinians
Two-state solution is better. Otherwise you'll always have a dominant majority marginalizing the other, or at best you would have a political stalemate incapable of getting anything done.
The two state solution is definitely not better. It would mean both side ethenic cleansing because of the whole world allowed isrsel to build colonies all over the west bank. Thinking that israeli and palestinians can never live together is racist and antisemitic
It's not racist and anti-semitic, it's called being in touch with reality. Even western democracies are having issues with either stalemates causing ineffective governance, or a resurgence in populist extremism causing political instability.
You can't just merge two vastly different societies with a history of open conflict under one political system and expect it to magically become some egalitarian multicultural utopia. History has shown countless times that it doesn't work. Almost always, at least one group is marginalized and disenfranchised.
Believing that two semetic populations can never be in peace is antisemetic and racist. Since you believe in that it makes zero difference if the solution is a one state or two state because even with a two state solution. Both side could still attack
All your bullshit was excuses used by pro apparteith in Sourh africa.
I didn't say they can "never" coexist in peace, I said the solution is more complex than simply throwing them into the same pot and saying "there, have democracy."
If you're just going continue to lean on strawman characterizations of what I'm saying, then we're done here.
So why you are saying a one state is imposible?
And I said a million time that i agree it is complex . The problem is that you refuse solutions just because it is complex.
If you want an example of how that sort of thing plays out, go read about Kurdistan.
Multiculturalism and democracy are good things, but if they're not implemented intelligently then bad things can happen, and ignoring the historical contexts in which conflicts between ethnic groups are rooted is not sufficient to overcome the animosities that may arise when you try to merge them into one functioning government.
The only one who ignore hystorical context is you
I'm just simply stating the simple facts that Israel must be dissolved and everyone who had a hand in the genocide must face justice. The actual process of determining the governance etc. should be determined by those who are going to actually live there.