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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure and I agree with that.

But this isn't a situation where you can point to a different group of lazy twats. They all should contribute, and pointing to those where it's especially egregious doesn't touch on everyone else's obligation to contribute in any way.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Listen, i apologize if this isn’t your intent, but you seem to be arguing against socialism under the point that “some people don’t work hard enough to deserve the fruits of others labor”

…so in what way does that excuse keeping a system where an owning class takes the vast and ever-increasing majority of the fruits of everyone’s labor, whether they work hard enough or not?

Why do you think we must dangle a person’s survival before them to induce subservience to the state or the economy? This is in fact psychotic behavior. This is indicative of a system which knows it is holding us hostage to a losing situation because “that’s just how it is”. We are the richest country in history, but only because of a handful of individuals? That’s not a rich country, that’s a slave colony in disguise.

Where money is power and the rich are nerfed less and less by the government through taxation to prevent them from overwhelming the very state meant to protect the people?

Let them earn a wage as the rest of us do as management and let the profits build us schools, hospitals, and homes. Let’s fix roads, build railroads, cover the land in solar fields, underneath which we grow shade crops or graze livestock.

No company nor person should ever be so valuable that it can take our country from us.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kind of.

…so in what way does that excuse keeping a system where an owning class takes the vast and ever-increasing majority of the fruits of everyone’s labor, whether they work hard enough or not?

It doesn't.

But if I have the choice of either supporting the current system that exploits me and unfairly distributes my labor to rich people who don't deserve it, and the alternative is a system that also exploits me and also unfairly distributes my labor, just to people who also don't deserve it, they're just not rich...

That doesn't exactly motivate me to support a system change, because from my point of view, it's effectively the same system.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not without empathy. I'd just like to limit my support to those who are actually victims of chance in an uncaring universe instead of those who are self-sabotaging and crying me a river about it.