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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you really believe North Korea executes people for watching TV?

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup and it's not the only country that does.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do all the countries you believe ridiculous things about happen to be enemies of the US that you've never been to?

I was going to add "or met someone from", but you could probably find a Cuban in Miami who'd say Castro executed their entire family for watching tv.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're a dumbass. North Korea"s treatment of human life is well documented Internationally.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So is their necromancy, since tons of people declared "executed" by tabloids are later seen alive.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh, I heard the same thing about China, then I went there, and I heard the same thing about Iran, but everyone I talked to who's actually been there had much more level-headed criticisms of the government than the horseshit the news makes up.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Highly doubtful. Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country. It is a pretty bleak place to exist. If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet, chances are your oppressor is doing some pretty awful things. It's why the current American fascist regime has "humored" restricting Internet access. Same reason Iran cut off Internet access during their recent unrest where the government killed thousands of civilian protestors.

Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country.

It's important to note that most North Koreans escape to South Korea, where it is illegal to say anything positive about North Korea, and from where they cannot leave for some number of years. So I would completely trust such accounts.

Also reports about North Korea often contradict other reports about North Korea. It's a mess of truth, exaggeration, rumours, stuff somebody made up, and in one case a satirical news article from Japan or China that Western media took at face value.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -4 points 1 day ago

Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country

Those accounts aren't credible because at any time they can called a spy and imprison. Also because they include laughable claims like that there is only 1 train in North Korea, which they have to pull by hand and "In North Korea, every room has to have a portrait of the Kims. The inspector comes out of nowhere in the middle of the night and touches the portraits. If they see any dust... you can get executed."

The same person making those claims also says their friends entire family was executed in a stadium for watching TV.

If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet

Alternatively, they're just trying to avoid the US using the internet to feed their citizens propaganda and organize a color revolution, as they constantly do to all of there adversaries.

I continue to have no judgement on what NK is like because again, no reliable data.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Covid-19 border closures have made escapes extremely rare since 2020.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/latest/north-korea-teenagers-executed-for-watching-squid-game-as-regime-wages-war-on-k-pop/

Getting out of the country must be so insanely difficult because it's so good there right! Who would want to escape such a paradise?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, was this after they required everyone in North Korea get Dear Leader's haircut, while also executing anybody who got his haircut?

Western news sources are not reliable when covering America's enemies. I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who've traveled there, and aren't in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don't promote the state department line.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.

Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.

So from this I assume you will remain ignorant forever?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.

For Americans maybe, that's why I'll talk to Chinese who aren't such a risk when I return to China. I met a Russian who had the same shock upon seeing she was lied to about China and wanted to go to NK, I wouldn't be surprised if Russians can travel somewhat freely in NK either.

[–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it's even better since the war started. Do I believe her over all the other Russians/Ukrainians/Moldavians I've met? Hell no. Propaganda is a helluva drug. I'm sure all those places aren't as bad as American media makes them out to be, don't get me wrong, but they're not as peachy as their side says either.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started

Bizarre. I don't know any Russians who haven't commented on the increased propaganda and how expensive everything's gotten. Apparently there's more diverse brands in stores now tho lol. Do they at least mention how expensive everything is?

I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.

That's literally my only point here. There's people who think NK is full of mustache-twirling villains who execute you if you watch a TV show.

[–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Nah, mostly she just complains about pretty normal stuff that's unrelated to that. She'll be back next week, this time she stayed a bit longer than usual, might've felt less like a tourist this time so might have actual complaints. But I doubt it. She's what the Russians would call a vatnik, I think... despite living outside Russia for over 30 years now.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For Americans maybe

I have no idea why you're so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place

that’s why I’ll talk to Chinese who aren’t such a risk when I return to China

I have no idea why you'd believe random Chinese who probably believes the propaganda from the Chinese government even harder than you do

By the way no comment from you on the fact that North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories? That their country is a prison?

I met a Russian

You really are knee deep in it eh?

Last post from me, you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I have no judgement because I have no reliable data

I have no idea why you’re so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place

You understand the difference here right? Not immediately dropping your pants and jerking off while grunting about how bad and evil America's enemies are isn't the same as withholding judgement on something you don't have reliable data on.

North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories

I've never heard from a North Korean in a country where they risk prison if they don't tell the right story, but presumably there are North Koreans telling their stories in North Korea, Jilin, and Vladivostok, that we haven't heard.

you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)

Eh, I wouldn't want to tie myself to a single place.