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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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Even after cutting EV incentives, Norway only sold 98 diesel cars in January (electrek.co)

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[–] simpliston@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Charging situation: We have tons of chargers, and they are all required to take credit cards. You can use their app, or unified apps, but you don't need to. The chargers show up in Google Maps, CoMaps, and specialized EV apps. There are chargers distributed evenly over the country, so that even in winter when the car has about 60% of normal range, there is no problem finding fast chargers and taking short breaks. Calculated for range and such, even fast chargers are way cheaper than gas, you can multiply the price by about 3 to get the equivalent liters per 10 kilometers.

Motivation to buy EVs: Sure, we've had a bunch of incentives, like a lower purchase tax, access to bus lanes, free parking and so on. But the main motivation has been and always will be these:

Electricity is way cheaper than gas
Batteries are super recyclable, and once built, still exist, and are not "burnt up" like gas
Electric cars don't make annoying noise, disturbing sleep and concentration
Electric cars don't pollute, both relevant for city air quality, and CO2
Electric cars have way fewer moving parts and therefore fewer potential sources of errors
You can charge your car from your house (super cheap). You can't make gas at home
Electric cars have no gears and can accelerate quickly. Much smoother rides, and encourages drivers to behave better

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There's an EU legislation that says all charger above 47kWh have to accept credit card but in Spain it was simply ignored. I know chargers that were installed after this was passed, they were partially financed by the government and they don't accept credit cards, app only. Another issue besides reliability is that lots of chargers are in the middle of nowhere. Gas stations always have someone working there, not to mention that you can use a bathroom or get a coffee. Majority of charges in Spain are just a charger with nothing around. For me it's just inconvenient but I imagine how women must feel using them during the night... Still, if all chargers accepted card payment I would be able to live with it because as you say, EVs are great overall but the fact that I have to deal with incredibly frustrating apps on top of bad infrastructure is a bit too much for me.

[–] simpliston@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, well if it's an EU law, then it should be enforced. I bet they will implement credit card support faster if threatened with a fine if they don't

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 hour ago

I was thinking about filing a complaint to the EU but I'm not sure it would actually help. They already are preparing next rounds of financing to enable card payments in the chargers. I don't think they will do it faster when threatened with a fine. The worst thing is that it's the leftist government handing full control over the charging infrastructure to private companies. When the right wing government wins the next elections any progress will probably slow down even more.