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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

LGBT+ people in general, as well as POC. The problem is that the people most likely to for this hatred are aligned with the wealthy, elite whether they know it or not. So we have to fight them to get to their masters.

[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not LGBT+ people in general. The LGB were too happy to throw queer people under the bus and they aren't bearing the brunt of the hate.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

queers are closer aligned with the identities that they descend from (especially so w white ones) than they are with each other; that's why grindr keeps crashing from overload every time there's a conservative convention somewhere.

[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Don't bring race into this. I dealt with a fuckton of harassment and threats from cis people despite being white passing and no, the people doing it weren't all white.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

race is probably the most powerful cudgel in the ruling class' arsenal and is always there whether you chose to acknowledge it or not; willfully ignoring it will guarantee your own peril.

[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is about trans people and ALL trans people struggle. ALL queer people struggle. Even if they were the whitest people on the planet. So keep the racist bullshit out of this.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm trans and white passing too, I'm sorry for your bad experiences, I've had plenty too. I just wanted to say that there's a very real issue with white LGBT+ people aligning themselves with their whiteness more than their queerness, especially for cis people, but even trans folks (see people like Contrapoints). So for systemic issues you do see a divide that we shouldn't ignore.

[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I could say the same about black queer people aligning with cis black people who are grossly transphobic. It's very common for transphobic black people to accuse white queer people of being racist when they want to get away with blatant transphobia. I've seen it in person plenty of times.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The difference is that reactionary black people don't have racial privileges the way white people generally do, black people are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators, and I don't know if you're reading the room or not but their communities have been terrorized for centuries. Without knowing anything about you personally I can't comment on your experiences, but we live in a racist system designed to keep black people down and superexploit them. Even as things get progressively worse for us trans folks we need to stay in solidarity with black people and other POC, it's the right thing to do and there's a lot we can learn by listening to them.

[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is about trans and queer people and you reduced it to race which belittles the white and white passing people who struggle even if you're white passing. I'm here talking about our struggles and here you go to make it about race. That's like talking about your struggles and someone brings up starving kids in Africa. You've lost the point.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 1 points 49 minutes ago

We're fighting the same oppressive forces though, so it's not at all comparable to changing the topic to oppression Olympics. But if you'll be so defensive when a real issue comes up I'm not interested in taking further.